Off to Rams Stadium this Sunday for the next encounter in what happens next. I don't expect anything other than a Fax win but I wouldn't be at all surprised with another Fax defeat. We shall see.

unless we dramatically improve i can only see another defeat here by about 14 points.But if we do perform for 80 minutes it will still be a hard game but we are more than capable of wining. I would put moore on the bench and start with bourouh and give the arm band to fairbank if fit but i cant see that happening. Also if we had other options at halfback i would make changes there too. If we do lose on sunday how much longer can the board justifie not sacking grix i have already lost patience and want the board to act while there is still time to save the season

Two points here. 1) How SG chose Moore to be captain is a mystery to me, I agree I would give it to Fairbank. 2) The season as far as winning the league or having a cup run is over already.

Obviously haven't seem the team yet but on current form, and I hope I am dead wrong, I'll go for Dewsbury by 6 to 8 points and another re brand to Pants Here R Us.

I'd settle this week for a deadly boring win, 5 drives and a kick with any football played in their 25. It's a very small field so it doesn't take too much to get from one end to another, with confidence at a low ebb if they start trying to chuck it around in our half I can only see more mistakes, and the chance for their halves to do some damage. I would keep Barber at centre as they have a couple of big centres , if fit would definitely start Fairbank, with Larroyer and Hewitt in second row. Would still start with Moore, but as had been said by others, bring him off when borough comes on . Finally - we will undoubtedly have some possession near their line - both half backs supported by Jwh need to take control and really challenge the defence.

What i meant by saving the season was a top six finish if you can get in the playoffs and it form at the right time anything can happen miracles do happen hudds

Agreed.

We now need to be realistic, it seems strange having a must win game so early in the season but that is where our horrible start has left us. We lose this and sad as it is we are actually in a relegation battle rather than looking at the play offs. If we lose the board has to act and we need to look to bring an experienced coach in.

But the question is will they act if we lose the impression i get is everything will sort it self out there's no need to panic were i see it as the exact opposite

Looks a strong squad - glad to see Fairbank back but bit disappointed to see Springer omitted as he can bring some real impact off the bench. I know he's a big bloke but he doesn't look particularly fit to me and only able operate in very short bursts something which may well count against him with Grix.

on are recent from am going for a dewsbury win. Cant beat relegation fodder Oldham so we have no chance against dewsbury who i would put anywhere above 9th

from the 21 man squad i would pick 1 woodburnhall 2 mcgrath 3 barber 4 worthington 5 rawsthorne 6 harris 7 robinson 8 murray 9 bourouh 10 tangata 11 larroyer 12 hewitt 13 fairbank subs 14 morris 15 kavanagh 16 brearley 17 moore. I cant see moore being on the bench but that is were i would pick him as for springer if he is injured fair enough but if he is dropped i dont agree with that decision as for the game i think we will lose by about 7 points straight after the oldham game i would of said by more but now i think it will be a bit closer but we will still lose and if we do will the board do what needs to be done i wouldn't hold my breath

Springer has to be injured, not a chance he wouldn't be playing. Although it could just be stubborness as people are saying how well he does but Grix just looking at the analytics rather than seeing whats actually going on in the game.

Reading the injury updates on't Fax website there is no mention of Springer. Remember he was MotM against bulls and dropped for the next game.

Could it be possible that our coaching team feel that its best to rest Springer for the must win games. Perhaps until we play in the final game of the season to see who will go down?

Who knows? But if he's not injured it can only reinforce the belief that SG is not the man for the job. Rotation might be o.k. at times but when you've got one of the best squads in't league and you're struggling at the bottom of said league I would say you should be putting your best possible team out on the pitch. As for tomorrow I will go for Dewsbury 14v28 Fax.

It would help if the club posted the injury updates in the week running up to the game instead of afterwards.
The last injury update as far I can see was after the squad had been picked and after the game against Oldham so we were left speculating on wether a player was injured or just been left out.

"As for tomorrow I will go for Dewsbury 14v28 Fax."

Hudd-shay , that is a very brave call. A vast improvement will be needed on a pitch the size of a tennis court ( although one of my favourite grounds to visit)

I just look at our squad and can't believe we won't be able to to go to Dewsbury and win comfortably.

We thought that about Oldham !!

Absolutely.

Dewsbury 18 fax 22 wake up call . If they lose its hatchet time on the football management structure ( which might just encourage them to put game heads on and win )

What a shame we are even talking like that. The fact is though, we've been In't 2nd division nearly 20 years and not topped the table once!

Springer not injured apparently.

While I would much rather Springer was on the 17 I can understand Grix's thinking - just don't agree with it. When your focus is more on not losing than going hard for the win you go for solid performers like Garside rather than someone who may make mistakes but can also pull something special out of the bag. We've had the same in the past with players like Worrincy and Barlow who were probably a lot more popular with fans than coaches. We knew what we were getting with Spinger and for me he's performed as expected so seems a bit daft to then leave him out.