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| Fax have announced plans to apply for Super League, taking the place vacated by Toronto. What are people's thoughts on this? I think it is absolutely the right thing to do and just hope we are serious about it. Sadly though I believe the decision has already been made as to who will be the successful club. We'll see.
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| The process is due to start quickly, supposedly with independent assessment based on certain criteria.
If that is the case and the SL clubs have a particular club in mind (already chosen) then it would be through them setting a criteria that best fitted that club ticking all the boxes thus covertly but decisively affecting the decision.
Conspiracy theories apart there are a number of clubs who will be throwing their hats into the ring.
Fax are right in doing so but it would be no big surprise or disappointment not to be accepted.
Connecting some of the dots from above, providing the club chosen is pretty solid off the field then it should be based on the most recent performance on the field which leads me to Fev being the choice as they were runners up to TW in the last meaningful competition.
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| For me it should be either London (team relegated for TWP) or Fev (Lost GF to TWP), therefore it will be either Widnes, Bradford or Toulouse.
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| Biased as i am i can't think of a single reason why we'd have any hope of succeeding so i hope the helicopter stays grounded..
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| While like most supporters i would love to see a competitive Halifax back in Superleague, having had hardly any rugby to watch in 2020 I would much prefer to watch a good championship side hopefully winning more than it loses, than seeing a team get completely tonked each week. That said I don't think it does any harm to keep putting the clubs name on Superleagues agenda even though I'm sure the club are not realistically thinking a bid at this stage has any chance of success whatsoever
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| ....and the latest wheeze from SL is thet the lucky chosen club will get only half the funding that the other eleven teams receive. You just couldn't make this stuff up!
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| Another loaded dice for the so called ELITE we cant have an upstart Championship club wanting to join the cosy closed shop cartel
We should know our place in the pecking order and not have grandiose ideas above our lowly status
The odds against any Championship club succeeding with the current system arnt great possibly Toulouse maybe
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| Super Greed just want someone to make the comp up to even numbers for ease of fixtures so no club is without a game each week.
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Financially the club who is chosen may make more from getting 50% of SL central funding than what they would get from their Championship amount.
Other income streams like sponsorship due to some TV coverage may increase and providing crowds are allowed back the number of spectators paying on the day would likely be greater. One doomed season in SL compared with the same year in the Championship money wise they may be better off.
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| Or...you could claim to have enough money to fill the gap. Get promoted and don’t spend anymore on players. Take all the distribution and get relegated on no points and then have lots of cash in the bank.....I wonder if it would work?
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| Sadly we are miles away from having a realistic chance. We couldnt even submit a decent application years ago when we met the criteria . Absolutely no point wasting time on smoke and mirrors on a rfl game of chase the rainbow
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| Quote ="faxcar"Super Greed just want someone to make the comp up to even numbers for ease of fixtures so no club is without a game each week.
However.
Financially the club who is chosen may make more from getting 50% of SL central funding than what they would get from their Championship amount.
Other income streams like sponsorship due to some TV coverage may increase and providing crowds are allowed back the number of spectators paying on the day would likely be greater. One doomed season in SL compared with the same year in the Championship money wise they may be better off.'"
Whoever gets in will have little chance of staying up but may learn and earn enough to use it to bounce back the year after. We’ve got to give it a go and hopefully the new management team will put in a good enough application. If I were a SL club I wouldn’t want to be going to Fev.
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| We're out of the running at the first hurdle. Average attendance of 2,000 needed in either 2018 or 2019.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/uploads/docs/2021_SuperLeague_Application.pdf[/url (page 5).
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| It was just mentioned on sky SL. They takes about the crowds and Brian Carney just said. That’s Bradford then. So that is what they will all be thinking. Just give it Bradford and we can watch the Bulls fu@k it up again. I don’t know why we even bother trying to toe the line for SL. They want 12 teams and a closed league. Can’t fffing stand the governing body of our sport. They have killed a great game
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| 2019 average attendances so far
Barrow 1,367
Batley 1,114
Bradford 4,481
Dewsbury 972
Featherstone 1,841
Halifax 1,817
Leigh 3,103
Rochdale 954
Sheffield 1,089
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| Quote ="Faxlore"2019 average attendances so far
Barrow 1,367
Batley 1,114
Bradford 4,481
Dewsbury 972
Featherstone 1,841
Halifax 1,817
Leigh 3,103
Rochdale 954
Sheffield 1,089
Swinton 1,269
Toronto 1,483
Toulouse 2,728
Widnes 5,133
York 1,940'"
I assume you mean 2020? Although going back to 2019 would probably be a good thing.....
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| No this is taken from 2019 stats from LoveRL site.
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1 Toronto 5,781
2 Leigh 3,539
3 Toulouse 2,437
4 Featherstone 2,316
5 Halifax 1,752
6 Barrow 1,239
7 Batley 1,082
8 Dewsbury 1,001
9 London 861
10 Swinton 840
11 Sheffield 704
12 Rochdale 549
Summer B 11,805
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| Quote ="Faxlore"From 2018
2018
1 Toronto 5,781
2 Leigh 3,539
3 Toulouse 2,437
4 Featherstone 2,316
5 Halifax 1,752
6 Barrow 1,239
7 Batley 1,082
8 Dewsbury 1,001
9 London 861
10 Swinton 840
11 Sheffield 704
12 Rochdale 549
Summer B 11,805
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If you put Bulls 2018 League One average of 3574 in to the above table
Its second to Toronto. As a Bulls fan we are a long way from aiming to be in SL and the RFL/SL shouldn't pick us.
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| Quote ="bulls2487"If you put Bulls 2018 League One average of 3574 in to the above table
Its second to Toronto. As a Bulls fan we are a long way from aiming to be in SL and the RFL/SL shouldn't pick us.'"
I know you as a fan are saying you shouldn’t be picked (and I’m not having a go at fans) but your club has put themselves forward and we know how the RFL view the Bulls despite the clubs business record over the last 10 years. I think it will be Leigh who get it
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| Quote ="Faxlore"I know you as a fan are saying you shouldn’t be picked (and I’m not having a go at fans) but your club has put themselves forward and we know how the RFL view the Bulls despite the clubs business record over the last 10 years. I think it will be Leigh who get it'"
I get it, I think some of our fans would of kicked off if we didn't apply. I can't see us putting together a bid that is suitable for SL. Our only strong points are the academy and fan base. On the other hand due to the Odsal lease it wouldn't surprise me if we got selected. Think Fev and Leigh got to be favourites. Would of said Toulouse but doubt that because of Covid.
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| Quote ="bulls2487"I get it, I think some of our fans would of kicked off if we didn't apply. I can't see us putting together a bid that is suitable for SL. Our only strong points are the academy and fan base. On the other hand due to the Odsal lease it wouldn't surprise me if we got selected. Think Fev and Leigh got to be favourites. Would of said Toulouse but doubt that because of Covid.'"
But how could you return to Odsal ? The club left because of the cost of the upkeep of the ground amongst other things. Surely that hasn’t improved if not got worse as no one has been there for months. Saying that it won’t matter if Odsal is a wreck when licensing was clubs were meant to have modern stadiums and they still still have licenses to Cas and Wakey. Both of those grounds should be closed.
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| At least it’s out of the way early on as far as Fax are concerned so we can focus on the business in hand.
From those who tick the crowd box and are still in the mix from what I can see it’s down to commercial attraction and stability add to that expansion they’ll go for Toulouse.
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| Toulouse would be a commercial pick with the RU world cup coming up . Fax dont tick any boxes putting on an objective hat. The only super league standard tick we had in recent years was Richard Marshall and the bod sacked him .
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| Quote ="Ohmetoe"Toulouse would be a commercial pick with the RU world cup coming up . Fax dont tick any boxes putting on an objective hat. The only super league standard tick we had in recent years was Richard Marshall and the bod sacked him .'"
Unless Im missing something then judging us against the criteria that came out yesterday the only one we don't meet was the one that ruled us out. We are nowhere near but who wants to be part of a "transparent" process that openly says that weighting to each criteria will be done after the applications had all been viewed.
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