After you fantastic result against Castleford you have shown you can compete on the field and also off it with the amount of away support you took, we didnt take that many last season. What are you chances of getting a super league bid accepted in 2012 in comparison to the other front runners Widnes and Leigh?

I personally would love to see Halifax back in we had some great games against you, it would be much like Hull KR coming back into the top flight, your fans would flock back and you would also have a great away following, you also have IMO one of the best stadiums around, is it a good atmosphere? How many does it hold?

The problem for Fax like all the other clubs is the support they took to Cas is the same as their current total home support

They like us and to a lesser extent Widnes need to get over 4,000 home paying fans attending all their home matches , until that point is reached none of us are viable SL candidates

I do'nt think we could average 6,500 in SL. Even less if they fetch more expansionest teams in.

Ditto Leigh , that is why I make the point of getting up to 4,000 in the Championship first , if you cannot reach that level of core support outside SL when you are winning 60/70 % of your matches you are not going to be able to retain enough in the early days of a SL campaign when you are going to be losing 60/70 % of your matches

Talking to one of the marketing guys at Cas. on Saturday. He stated that they were strugleing to break even in the hospitality suite, when CATS. CC. and HARLIWATSITS. come to town.

I think its about development and we are making progress. Would the people of Halifax get behind a super League club? Yes I think they would but then they need to prove it by turning up to games so we can get there.

Don't try and make out Super League is some exclusive and elite club. I felt embarrassed for Castleford on Saturday. A stranger walking into Wheldon Road would have been forgiven for thinking Castleford was anything BUT a "Super League" club ... with tacky pre match and half time "entertainment", a [icrap[/i 19th century stadium, and barely 4,500 "hardcore fans" who turned up. Not looking for a sparring match with the Cas fans, just telling it as I see it. And that goes for several other clubs in Super League. Joke? You bet it is.

anyone watch hollyoaks tonight?

For christ's sake you don't half blabber on and on about the most boring and indane stuff "bluesox4eva", you really do my head in. And I wish you'd change your ridiculous "nik" ... outdated and irrelevant, and get rid of that offensive avatar ... the last thing I want is a pair of [itits[/i shoved in me face when I'm on me comp.

I think some people rather likea pair of t!ts shoving in their face.

Am I right? I'm not wrong

ive bin supportin blue sox 4 forty yrs man gimme a break
why dont you like em you fruit

Sorry, what are Fax's attendances like again?

For a pay on the gate match against lower league opposition

How many would you draw for a match against Dewsbury Oldham or Hunslet if everybody was paying ?

Attendances for one off games are not relevant to potential SL averages

to be fair i aint seen much ht rugby entertainment that wouldnt be described as tacky

just send some up and unders for drunk fans to try catch for heavens sake

tony fax i changed my pic for you personally, hope you prefer that part. if not dont worry ill put a pic of the bradd pits stomach muscles up

Now thats a phrase I never thought I'd read.

yeah what a cockmaster!

i must have missed it when celtic crusaders were getting 4,000 supporters last season.

it has mostly to do with location its the only reason celtic got in last time and it will be one of the only reasons toulouse get in next time around if they put a franchise bid in.

if toulouse do put a bid in which i think they will do i dont think we will get in widnes are bound to be front runners in the RFL'S eyes at the time the next franchise comes around.

You poof!

1 st they play to a different set of Franchise rules to the likes of us and you dont they



Sooner or later if they cannot build support they will go out of business unless they find another sugar daddy willing to throw away millions

Any heartland club needs to get to a similar support base as Cas to be able to survive both in the Championship and SL without ' extra ' investment

Agreed!!!

I personally think Cas' home support is excellent, i've no idea what the population of cas is but for a small town the crowd they get are very good. Plus they travel to away games in good numbers.

Saturdays gate was more to do with it being an all pay game, it'll be almost a sell out down the jungle this weekend when the whinos come to town.

Remember years ago Howard Posner saying that you needed 10,000 fans at a match to sustain a Super League side and for every 1,000 people below that you have to have someone puting £100,000 in.He assured me this was correct .

Cas have always done well for crowds, but they have little competition. There's no decent local Football Side (many locals support Leeds) and its an amateur RL Hotbed so plenty of interests of all ages, plus traditional local rivalys with Fev and Wakefield add to the interest.

That obviously depends on a clubs outgoings though. Salford, Celtic, Wakey, Harlequins and plenty more won't get anywhere near a 10,000 average crowd this year or any year for that matter. But they could be saving money in other areas and bringing money in from other areas.

I'd imagine Salford make a lot of money from The Willows. Not the actual ground but the Clubhouse as its used for all sorts of functions.