really if so i am wrong but i am sure that is what the rule says. This may have come about because nobody actually plays the ball properly anymore so if they were waiting for the foot to strike the ball they would never move up

No you are not wrong. It is the referees who are wrong. The players should hold until the foot hits the ball.

The other wasted phrase which is constantly heard on the tv is when the defending team should be behind the touch line (play the ball within 10 meters of the goal) is "TWO FEET" because not one single team is ever fully onside when this occurs, including ours.

The Ref's performance had limited affect on the game. After 10 minutes of the Second Half after Beswick's try we simply switched off thinking the game was already won. Our defence fell apart, our discipline was simply stupid and Keighley took advantage.

Yes there were some confusing decisions. I thought Haley's effort was a try but I also though Said stole the ball two on one. We conceded penalty after penalty because we put ourselves in positions where the Referee had penalised BOTH sides throughout the game.

Just typical Halifax fare blaming the ref, some fans took that criticism way too far yesterday.

Whilst you may have some valid points way the ref was against you, do not forget we had a clear try by Jamaine Wray, we were given a penalty the ref clearly blew for play to continue Jamaine scored a try only to be pulled back with no explanation.

Also when we were 2 behind you made some yardage then seemed to offload the ball our player Chris Baines went for ball ref said he knocked on but based on what was said after Bary looked at vid straight after game and its clear Chris did not knock it on, a very important call went against us which ultimately led to a try for you, so keep the moaning at being pinged by ref in reality please.

End of day despite the ref being inept there was 2 good sides who played very good rugby and unfortunately whilst I believe we should have got at least a point we have not and now have to move to hopefully beating Sheffield.

The Royston try just before time was a bizarre one. Our guy dropped it, the ref signalled for a knock-on, not the waved arms signal for play on, and he let Royston run through and go 80 metres for the try.

The incident where Tamghart stripped the ball from Wray was definitely not a high shot. But from where I was stood, the one leading to Tamghart's disallowed try was a 2 on 1 steal.

Will Cartledge crashed over for a try which was given held up even though from the stands you could see the ball being grounded.

Likewise that great camera shot shows you had a perfectly good one ruled out.

I think what can be agreed amongst both sets of fans is that Mr Turley should not be allowed near a professional rugby league game for a while, he had a shocker.

I am afraid that is all the two sets of fans will agree on