Hartley = Salford, quins and Fax and now Widnes.



Barker = Leeds, Hull KR, Hull, Castleford, Quins, Halifax and now Featherstone

There's a difference between a genuine error and stupidity, TS. Put it this way, I'd rather Barker play against us than Black.

So, in that case, every player that gives away a penalty is stupid?



Not arguing with you on that one.

In certain situations ... yes. Giving away a penalty on the last tackle under your own posts is .... for want of a better word ..... stupid. I can't think of any other way to describe it. (Especially when the offence is blantant foul play, like ball stripping).

Barker had the potential to do very well for us, he showed glimpses of what he could do but never kicked on from there, we've had too many players like that and while I never tore into him like some fans have done I don't think we'll be worse off without him.