That's an amazing punt. I've done some decades on the road and see no evidence for such a breathtaking gratuitous generalisation. I have not experienced any way of detecting what any other human's awareness of their whole surroundings is. Have you? How is that done, then?

woman's world record, is that under 10 secs, it looks over to me?

What are you talking about? Have you lost the plot?

You said:


It's bollox in the case of white guys as you imply only black men have run sub10, but in fact white men have also run under 10 seconds.

And it's bollox in the case of white women as you imply a black woman has run sub-10 but in fact no black woman has done it either.

HTH

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15820069Would you be happy to drive a largely automated, "crash proof" car[/url that will override your control inputs if it disagrees with your choices?

Many pilots, for example, already have this in their aircraft.

Surely it's all Sam Tomkins fault. Him or the French.

If you look at the post codes with the largest instances of un-insured vehicles the demographic is usually dominated by immigrants and siblings born out of immigrants.

Just maybe this complete disregard for the law also manifests itselfs into driving technique? two of the top four are in Bradford a city with a significant asian and eastern european population. Anyone who has driven down Leeds road in Bradford on a regular basis will experience some of the worst abuses of driving etiquette you will ever see.

I trust the facts will counter the usual "rasict" rubbish you read on here whenever you dare to suggest all is not quite above board with some sections of the population

Welcome to lefties paradise that is the sin bin. Dont dare suggest there is a minority group that may not be good at something 'cause we are all the same

Yes, in fact with anti-lock brakes and traction control we already do to an extent.

Not at all, its a recognised fact and one which the police advertise widely on TV with occasional purges on insurance checks in that area, I just hope that they are checking constantly for untaxed/uninsured vehicles (some of very high value) in those areas but the fact that they make a song and dance about when they do it suggests that most of the time they don't bother.

I agree about driving down Leeds Road too, its a free for all when its busy and you may as well ignore any road markings.

OTOH Leeds Road is in many ways a bastion of old-fashioned, traditional values. There, people still have time to stop for a chat. Granted, they may be in cars coming from opposite directions, and it may be the middle of the road blocking everyone else, but doesn't it make a nice change from the normal hustle, bustle and rush?

It the wheelies on motor bikes and three wheel jobs up the middle of the road racing down the wrong side of road etc not to mention the open drug dealing which explains the need for conversation in the middle of the road - commerce is alive and well in BD4!!

This morning was an interesting drive into work. Strong winds but yet on the M62 going over open high bridges I saw at least 2 waggons whose drivers are not taking notice of the roads and are reaching over to their left hand side to get their cup of coffee.

One of these was from a company who I know (as cod'ead mentions) employs people to ensure their drivers are well trained in the skills of driving such big expensive machines. The other had a nice big trailor on it with shiny new BMWs and because of his desire for his coffee at 7am the truck seemed to be veering nicely between inside and middle lane at around 50mph.

I appreciate not all drivers are like this, but it certainly highlights how waggon drivers get a bad name at times.

"Not all" is a massive understatement, because on that journey you'll have unremarkably passed hundreds and hundreds of lorry drivers who are totally anonymous as they did nothing but drive normallly. Obviously, nobody writes about them, but they are sort of all tarred with this guy's brush.

Not in my views they are not tarnished by that brush, because I have full respect of people who drive these vehicles.

I was just making an observation of something I had noticed this morning, not having a sweeping statement of how bad waggon drivers are. Lets face it some car drivers do the same thing in driving with drinks in their hands.

No, and I wasn't suggesting you were, it's just that the moronic actions of one can unfairly spoil it for the majority of others, and lorry drivers are no exception to that rule.

Unfortunatly mate,some drivers of all types of vehicles are totally clueless on the road.I drive a tanker,and have been through a lot of training.I am not saying I am the best driver in the world,but I will say I am aware of driving safely.Believe me,the way some drivers perform makes this a task in its own right.

What's the difference between a normal class 1 test and an ADR test?

After over 30 years of 'clean' driving I was done on the M606 50mph section. I did the driver awareness course yesterday, which was interesting & heart breaking at the same time. The mix of the 60 or so people there was a bit of a surprise. There was not one person under 30 I would say, mostly well over 40. About a third women, half Asian. Being in Bradfford the latter is not unexpected. Apart from a fair number who had been caught out on the M606, most were caught in Bradford, usually Manningham Lane, doing 35-40. After seeing the videos of children being knocked over, listening to the heartbreaking testimonies of dead children's parents that had me in tears, seeing the statistics for accidents & likelihood of deaths at certain speeds, I reckon nearly 100% of those present will not be speeding in urban areas for a while. I would make everone caught >10% over the limit attend these courses, whether they accept the points or not.

A class I test is to prove you are capable (or of the required standard) to drive a vehicle. ADR certification proves you are capable of carrying certain hazardous loads

Sorry my fault i worded it wrong, what do you do on top of an already existing Class 1 to get an ADR, is it just loading and unloading a tanker and remembering symbols and numbers?

[url=http://www.friendberry.co.uk/page_p-adr.htmlGoogle is your friend[/url

thought i'd ask first hand with someone who had done it

No mate ,you have to go on a course,usually 4 or 5 days.Then take a test.
9 different catagories if you want them all.
p.m me if you want more info.

Don't even have a class 1 yet but it's on the cards, i was also thinking of topping up with ADR, HIAB, ELV and Moffett Mounty.

All being budgeted for at the moment, i spend my money on gaining more and more work related qualifications, trying to improve my points for my NZ move.

Britain has one of the best records in the world for road casualties.