I hope your employees all vote Tory, just out of spite from your dictatorship rule.

I suspect he doesnt employ anyone that's stupid enough to vote for that shower.

You really do take after your masters.



I was going to ask what you would do about any Jewish employees but I doubt a "paid up member" would ever hire any.



I really do wonder about the most ardent and devoted Labourites. If you believe in the same extreme and anti-UK/capitalism/West ideologies Corbyn and McDonnell have advocated all their lives (but have watered down in the face of increased scrutiny and in an attempt to appeal to all sides), fair enough. If you're anything else, you're a puppet and a muppet and need to give your head a wobble.

That makes two of us - so you don't pay CT but pay capital gains what kind of business do you run? - you benefit from the cashflow of collecting VAT?

How does your social conscience manifest itself in the way you treat your staff?

My error, wandering mind
Corporation tax not capital gains



My staff are well paid and happy with their treatment, working conditions etc, etc.

The social conscience is my own and I'm happy to pay the relevant taxes etc and dont actually believe that right now these should be cut, especially if the result of this is to squeeze those at the bottom of the pile.
We have an ageing population which will take more and more of the social care and health budget and to be frank, as a nation, we have to decide the best wat of financing it's growing needs.
There should be a grown up debate on the health service and not just leave it as a political football.

Right now, we have Boris making promises that we just know that he wont keep and Corbyn promising to spend every last penny and then some.
However, we have to get through Brexit before any of us have a clue just what may be available for either party to spend.

Boris has gone down exactly the same route as May, in trying to increase the Tory majority and he could well suffer the same fete, possibly a hung parliament, which at the current time, wont solve anything.

Actual lols - as I believe the kids say.

Meanwhile, after all the smears and nonsense about JC being a Russian asset, it turns out it was Gove and Johnson and their Vote Leave cronies all along; but they are suppressing the report to hide the facts, and the MSM is characteristically supine on the matter.

Hey ho.

I doubt anyone actually thinks Corbyn is a Russian agent. The Russians are becoming the most influential group of Europeans - they are everywhere and their arrogance is growing.

Yeah - I'm sure it's just part of the natural evolution of geopolitics that they interfered in the EU referendum, and are funding the Tory party; nothing to see here...

Same as hard left organisations such as Momentum and the Trade Unions funding the Labour party - nothing to see here...

What do you make of the new Brexit-con party.
There appears to be a whole load of horse trading going on behind the scenes.

What do you think Farage will be doing after the election, maybe he'll end up replacing Trumps hand, which appears to be firmly up Johnsons rear end.

There may well be a hung Parliament but perhaps not with the parties numbers being as they are now.

To keep Brexit alive Johnson has to win an overall majority which does seem a difficult task at present. It is the common view that the Tories will lose seats in Scotland, London and SE plus west of Bristol. If that happens Johnson will have to win a considerable number of seats. With the Brexit Party splitting the Leave vote that could be making it even more difficult than it would be.

If the Tories don't get an overall majority and the opposition parties have the numbers over them then Brexit is dead.

All good points - I wouldn't like to see CT increase I would like to see it decrease - I would support an increase in employers NI if I thought it was going into the NHS to increase training and not simply to increase the wages of the existing staff - which is what happened the last time NI was increased to support the NHS. Given workers are having to pay 3% into auto enrolment which will rise to 5% how much can we expect people to contribute?

you could well be right - Boris is going down the road that May went down he seems detached from the normal voter. He is lucky he has a personality something May didn't and Corbyn is a known entity and he lacks credibility - their spending plans are madness as is their Brexit policy.

If Farage wanted an exit he would stand down altogether - him standing in Labour marginals will strengthen Labour's position as he splits the leave vote.

He will simply campaign for a harder Brexit than Boris can deliver. Only no deal will work for him and there is no chance of that happening.

I think too much is being made of Trump - he is very likely to be out of power in 2020. Only Bernie would have any empathy with Corbyn amongst the leading American candidates. Guarantee Biden, Bloomberg etc would have exactly the same view of what is best for the UK and it wouldn't be Corbyn.

No deal can definitely still happen.
Assuming that Boris gains the overall majority that he craves, either with Tories or, more likely with some form of coalition with The Brexit Party, they (the coalition) will simply negotiate in a fashion that hacks off the EU, ensuring that they cannot negotiate a Free Trade Deal by the deadline at the end of 2020, at which point it will be a case of "see ya later" and we WILL leave with no deal.
The moderate majority, will need to do everything possible to prevent this from being possible.
IF Farage ends up holding the balance of power, which is certainly a strong possibility then, anything can happen.

The Brexit party will not win a seat - if Johnson wins a majority he could use it to turn the tables on Barnier to get a better deal - EU moved when they thought it could happen until the Benn act gave them back the power.

We have been terrible at negotiating with the EU - May didn't want to leave and she was a disaster - just like anything she touched - a firmer stance might work better.

What exactly do we want

We want the UK to negotiate from a position of strength - something it has failed to do to date.

To achieve what though, there must be hundreds of permutations of Brexit - I struggle to see exactly what we want. My understanding of the referendum was that a leave vote was for quite a hard leave, but no one seems to be able to define what it is we’re looking for.

My understanding would be:
Free trade no tariffs
No free movement
Protection for existing EU citizens in the UK and UK citizens in the EU
Remove ties to ECJ - ability to make our own laws
No financial contribution to the EU

You're for a hard border in northern Ireland then? It's a legitimate position although not one I'd support.

Free access to the European single market (I'm interpreting your "free trade" here) will take some negotiating with those priors but after a few years we should be able to get a deal.

I remember seeing someone early on in the whole Brexit thing, describe our position as being in the EU but wanting to behave as if we weren't, then being a non-member but wanting to behave as if we were. Your list is pretty much that.

I think that your hopes fall down on "Free trade with no tariffs", primarily because we (the UK) would also like to negotiate independent trade deals with the rest of the world.
Interestingly, why would any nation, currently trading with the EU, wish to rock the boat by offering the UK a better deal - we necessarily have to be offered something not quite as good as the EU are achieving.

The elephant in the room would still remain "the Irish border", something utterly neglected by EVERYONE during the referendum, although Boris does now seem happy to chuck N. Ireland under the Brexit Bus.

The real reason behind Brexit could be a significant tightening of the laws surrounding how businesses legally hide their cash to avoid corporation tax etc.
There was a really interesting piece on this on the BBC website earlier today but, it seems to have been removed / disappeared.
If I can find it I will put up a link.

Well having watched all events to date, NONE of the parties & MPs give a S**t about your vote out comes unless it matches their individual position of thought, they ALL are dis-in-genuine ! Even to the point of not recognizing your voting outcome what ever that outcome is !!!!!!
The one thing I have noticed is there is one person so knowledgeable and she is not selected or running. !!
She has a reputation of knowing all !!!
Who is it you may ask ??? Laura kuessnberg, NONE of the main parties like her & have complained about her !!!
She is however venomous in tone & always rounds off she knows better !!
Onwards & Upwards !!

It would be pretty spectacular if you found an MP who agreed with your perspective on every matter. We elect people to represent us, but if you're looking for outrage by reviewing each vote then yes you'll find plenty you don't agree with. That's how representative democracy works.

That’s pretty much as I saw it, and as Jonny Average I presume most other voters saw it the same at the time
Struggling to see how we get to that position though, for all BoJo’s pomp his deal is weaker than that isn’t it