But Mandela was considered a terrorist in the old days. So, nothing changes does it - Labour terrorist sympathising and Tories on the side of law and order.

What do expect your lob-sided points to go unchallenged?

I don't see any of the Blair aides including the likes of Campbell accepting it was a mistake - even in this month's GQ they are defending their decision.

The point is where is that money best used? I am not saying we should not support people in crisis but where do we consider the best use of the money.

Greg Mullholland was a great MP he didn't lose his seat because he wasn't doing a good job - but then you knew that didn't you - but that is typical of the froth you post.

He was in the early days of the ANC

I agree but, he doesnt need any "redundancy" payment either

If the Jews had had a bombing campaign during the holocaust that the tories condemned, would you take the same line? One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

Corbyn has supported the cause for united ireland as he is against all forms of Imperialism and considers Northern Ireland to be an English Conquest (fair point of view even if you disagree)

He has condemned the bombings and use of violence throughout.

Yep - you're still an idiot.

Spoke to a pal of mine today, true blue Tory . Not short of money.I said you will be distraught at the Tory performance. He just laughed, said he voted labour for the first time ever.
Said if jezza had won, he would be richer by about twenty to thirty grand a year. This cos he has three kids at university. So much for all this talk about brexit. If you tell people they will be receiving free stuff usually they will vote for you.
Water under the bridge now, but Mrs mays promise was to remove fuel allowance and scrap the triple lock. Not a surprise she did not receive a working Tory majority.

You might need the state make the choices for you - I for one are grown up enough to be able to do it for my self



No wonder you wanted Jeremy to win

If he'd been extolling a whippet and flat cap tax he'd not have bren and wren's support!

As I've explained before - I'm in a fortunate position, so some of Labour's policies would have disadvantaged me personally; I was prepared for that, to see an end to some of the cruel and divisive Tory dogma that has caused hardship to so many people.

As it happens, Mrs May is now talking about an end to austerity, so there appears to be an admission that the ideological policy championed by Osborne (who is now one of her most vociferous critics) was not necessary after all; perhaps there is a magic money tree, if it helps to keep the Maybot in position?

such as?

That would be the Tory dogma that by upping the tax threshold ,lifted thousands of people from paying any income tax whatsoever.

Seriously?

Swingeing cuts to public services
Dreadful treatment of disabled people
Gutting the NHS and alienating the people who work in it - in preparation for creeping privatisation - which many of them will personally benefit from
Doing the same to schools - whilst planning to invest in new grammars
Slashing police and security service numbers - whilst mocking them for 'scaremongering'

Not to mention sending us hurtling towards a catastrophic decision to leave the EU, for the sake of hoovering up UKIP votes; they are acting solely in their parties interests, as demonstrated by their unholy union with the regressive DUP to cling on to power - and that's not acceptable.

Seriously ?

Wake up and smell the coffee.
The reality of where we are now is that, Labour, even with Corbyn at the helm now have a lead in the opinion polls.
Far from "strong and stable", the Tories have the weakest government in 40 years and you still cant see any wrong with Mrs May and her "policies" ?
People have had enough from being squeezed by the Conservative elite under the banner of "paying off the deficit".
Although public sector workers may have enjoyed some decent perks in the past (the 40/60 pension probably being the best of them), to restrict pay to a 15 increase indefinitely is obscene.
This is not flat cap, left wing politics, it's just wrong.
Yes, many private sector workers have been squeezed also but, what kind of society do you want.
It's no good wanting decent services and education for the younger generation and devaluing the very people who you need to deliver these services, whilst at the same time granting the MP's, inflation busting pay rises, partly brought about to help compensate them so that they may stop fiddling their expenses ??

Let me see.

Kids at school
Uni students
Welfare recipients
Nearly all public sector workers/contractors/suppliers
Homeless people
People who privately rent
People in social housing
People with physical/mental health problems
Older people
Foreign workers

off the top of my head.

Top of your blinkered head?

Why

? What did Labour do to BENEFIT any of those people, nothing!!

Forunately we've got a Conservative government for the forseeable future, I hope I never see Labour in power again.

You're beyond blinkered fella - Blair for all his faults did plenty for those groups.

Minimum wage, surestart centres, childcare, winter fuel payments, banned testing on animals, child trust funds, record students in higher educations, paternity pay.

Your beloved tories are a sick joke, the top 5% have increased their wealth by 15% while nurses, police and firefighters suffer a real terms cut.

I dont want to have a go at your eye sight but, foreseeable future ??
We havent even got a date for the Queens speech (Despite Mrs May initially saying that a deal had been done) and she will be gone by Christmas, possibly a lot sooner.
If the Tories are so confident, they would have another General Election but, dont hold your breath

Yes, he and his pals bankrupt the country with profligate spending, you are quite right.

Another myth you have allowed yourself to be duped into believing.

Labour invested heavily at the start of their reign, the deficit was coming down nicely, all under control and then the GLOBAL economic crash hit. No doubt that was all Labours fault as well?

I'll admit that his continuance of Thatchers financial deregulation and stupid PFI deals were well, stupid but if you actually look at the figures everything was pretty much under control.

You really should educate yourself beyond the echo chamber in which you currently operate; you're a Tory strategists dream - repeat the same tired old drivel enough times in enough places, and a significant chunk of the electorate will believe it, and repeat in angrily in pubs.

[url=http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/03/13/the-conservatives-have-been-the-biggest-borrowers-over-the-last-70-years/Try this for starters?[/url

Callaghan 269 seats - resigned
Kinnock 271 seats - resigned
Corbyn 262 seats - claims victory and orders the winner to resign

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