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| Quote ="brearley84"tories still had the most votes, most seat, another 5 years in power
didnt quite go as well as they expected mind!'"
Yes, they may have most seats but, T. May is now a lame duck, all credibility gone and if her plan was to strengthen her bargaining position with the EU, it has backfired spectacularly.
The movers and shakers in the EU are laughing at her as well as the UK and with the disruption of another election, right in the middle of EU negotiations, who know's where we will end up.
If it wasn't such a shambles and important to all of our futures, it would be utterly hilarious.
If they make another 5 years, without another election, I'll show my on Huddersfield town hall steps.
Loving your understatement at the end of your post.
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| business as usual for may!
what a pointless election if there ever was one
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| To be fair to her she did warn us of the possibility of terrorist sympathisers being in Government if she didn't get enough votes.
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| Quote ="brearley84"business as usual for may!
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The tory party will have her ousted by the end of the year.
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| Quote ="brearley84"business as usual for may!
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What "weak and feeble" and "jobless" before the summer has gone.
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| Quote ="brearley84"business as usual for may!
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She can pretend it didn't happen all she likes - but we saw. It was on the telly and everything.
She demanded an election she'd said she wouldn't call, to gain a mandate to pursue something she'd previously opposed, and then blew it.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Yes, they may have most seats but, T. May is now a lame duck, all credibility gone and if her plan was to strengthen her bargaining position with the EU, it has backfired spectacularly.
The movers and shakers in the EU are laughing at her as well as the UK and with the disruption of another election, right in the middle of EU negotiations, who know's where we will end up.
If it wasn't such a shambles and important to all of our futures, it would be utterly hilarious.
If they make another 5 years, without another election, I'll show my
on Huddersfield town hall steps.
Loving your understatement at the end of your post.
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Just about sums it up. I note that several of the eu countries are now emerging from recession, whilst our economy is slowing down. Not the strongest position for us to start brexit negotiations. Should imagine we will witness several moths of Tory infighting, accompanied by a barrage of labour taunts.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Just about sums it up. I note that several of the eu countries are now emerging from recession, whilst our economy is slowing down. Not the strongest position for us to start brexit negotiations. Should imagine we will witness several moths of Tory infighting, accompanied by a barrage of labour taunts.'"
And an election and all whilst the Brexit clock is ticking.
Her and Cameron will certainly be remembered, for screwing the country over.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"And an election and all whilst the Brexit clock is ticking.
Her and Cameron will certainly be remembered, for screwing the country over.'"
Compared to Blurgh and Brown they've been brilliant, wonder what Cardigan Corby will have on tomorrow, what a dynamic individual he is.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Compared to Blurgh and Brown they've been brilliant, wonder what Cardigan Corby will have on tomorrow, what a dynamic individual he is.'"
Apart from the Iraq war, Blair presided over the country in one of its most prosperous periods, so how you can say they are better than him is beyond belief.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Compared to Blurgh and Brown they've been brilliant, wonder what Cardigan Corby will have on tomorrow, what a dynamic individual he is.'"
Well, Cameron was so certain that we would remain in Europe that, he agreed to a referendum and lost.
May was so certain that she would win a landslide victory that, despite saying several times "There will be no snap election", she went to the country so that they could approve her Brexit plans, oh yeah, and she was found severely wanting.
How she has the audacity to stay on, is beyond me.
Any decent person would resign. Mind you she's clearly deluded and not exactly trustworthy.
How do you know when T.May is telling lies, yes, she opens her mouth.
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| So who are we sending to Brussels to negotiate Brexit the
Conservative Unionist Negotiating Team.
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| Quote ="Dally"I think the election will be more interesting than people presume. I also think it will cause divisions throughout the UK in all sorts of ways rather than unity. I think it will weaken Brexit (which is no doubt the motive).'"
That is what I said on page 2 of this thread a few weeks ago when it was supposedly a foregone conclusion. Was I right (again!)?
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| Now the dust has settled on the election result, labour might contemplate the fact they failed to win a majority. This after fighting the best labour campaign ever seen. against the worst Tory campaign in living memory. The Tory manifesto consisted of personal attacks on jezza. This backfired spectacular,can't see the tories making the same mistake again.
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| As a Labour voter I am pleased with this performance, been completely written off and on the back of a 2 year smear campaign against Corbyn, 2 leadership challenges and petulant MP's undermining him, it could have been a hammerblow for Labour.
As it is, they've increased their influence in parliament, humiliated May and got a whole new generation engaged in politics from an early age.
Corbyn has gained a lot of credibility after this, now people have had a chance to see the man, not the media myth. Delivering a seat increase when all "experts" predicted a Tory landslide should give him firmer footing taking the govt to task.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"As a Labour voter I am pleased with this performance, been completely written off and on the back of a 2 year smear campaign against Corbyn, 2 leadership challenges and petulant MP's undermining him, it could have been a hammerblow for Labour.
As it is, they've increased their influence in parliament, humiliated May and got a whole new generation engaged in politics from an early age.
Corbyn has gained a lot of credibility after this, now people have had a chance to see the man, not the media myth. Delivering a seat increase when all "experts" predicted a Tory landslide should give him firmer footing taking the govt to task.'"
Not just a seat increase but the biggest increase in Labour's share of the vote since Attlee. Just think what could have happened if Labour MPs had got behind him (rather than reliving the past, which has been and gone) and the election campaign had been a little longer. His policies are right for the times.
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| Quote ="Dally"That is what I said on page 2 of this thread a few weeks ago when it was supposedly a foregone conclusion. Was I right (again!)?'"
Ant this week's "Mystic Meg" prize goes to "Dally"
It was a good call.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC".As it is, they've increased their influence in parliament, humiliated May and got a whole new generation engaged in politics from an early age..'"
By offering them free stuff, easy politics and not a good way to introduce people to politics.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"By offering them free stuff, easy politics and not a good way to introduce people to politics.'"
Its fiscal stimulation vs austerity. A lot of those policies are in place all round europe already.
Free/nominal tuition fees = Germany, Scandinavia, Spain, France
Corp Tax of 26% puts us 2nd lowest in G7 and below average in EU
National investment banks used all round the world
Free school meals hardly radical
Austerity just doesn't work long term. Sure trim back some of the perks you had when times were better, but cutting deep and fast helps no one.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Austerity just doesn't work long term. Sure trim back some of the perks you had when times were better, but cutting deep and fast helps no one.'"
True but going too far the other way isn't the fix to it.
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| Corbyn offered the Labour sheep a manifesto of the land of the milk and honey regardless of the fact that he couldn't pay for it. Jeremy corbyn has his whole political career been a marxist ira supporting terrorist sympathiser. He had sod all to do with the northern ireland peace process . He was a none entity back bencher who was never ever wanted by the normal labour party.
and to all you students, you're still going to pay tuition fees, suck it up snowflakes
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| The Labour party are a bit like a non league football team thats been beaten 2-0 by Man Utd in the cup. Happy it wasn't 5 so will do a lap of honour.
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