As I said I don't like a number of things the Conservatives do and in an ideal world Labour would have a much better leader. The problem is Corbyn would do much more long term damage to the country, some just can't/won't see it.

I'm not sure about that. Give me some examples of where he would do long term damage.

The difficulties will arise when they (Labour) cant raise the funds to cover some of their eye watering election promises.
They have made some of the heftiest spending commitments ever and their plan to tax businesses and the better off simply wont work in the long term.
All businesses from the very small to the large multi nationals will change some of their "habits" to keep their businesses more "tax" efficient and that is before the joy's of Brexit.

Wow.

So you pretend that paying privately for your health and the education of your children is to do the rest of us a favour



You use private education and private health because you perceive these services to be better than their state equivalents.

Unless you are marking yourself down with some of the famous philanthropists of our time, who genuinely did great things for others, you are looking after #1 and I dont blame you for doing that but. please dont pretend that you are doing these things for the benefit of the rest of us, it's degrading and you are treating others with contempt

Well I'm not sure that is really "long term damage".

E.g. Labour's promised increase in NHS spending may not be easily paid for but I suspect the money they would raise would still eclipse what the Conservatives say they would put it in. There's a £14bn difference in the manifestos.

As with all things tax it's a constantly changing picture. Payment habits may well change but so will collecting habits. I suspect there may be more of an appetite to collect under a Labour government.

The problem that the government (Labour or Conservative) has with regard to collecting taxes is 2 fold.
No 1, the larger companies have better accountants than HMRC have collectors and then there is International trade, which is hugely complicated and deciding which country's are entitled to collect tax revenues is just the firs hurdle and as I say, the ways of moving tax liabilities make collection nigh on impossible, which is why google and amazon etc get away with paying very, very small amount of tax on huge revenues.

A printer & an economist. Wow, impressive.

This is much touted - but I've provided a link earlier in the thread that shows that Labour's proposed CT rate is lower than the 2010 rate, and would still be amongst the lowest in the G20. So if all of these mega-corps whom we are so beholden to would up-sticks and move abroad, why haven't they done so before now? I would suggest that it's because there are significant additional advantages to being based in the UK - not least our (previously)unfettered access to the European market.

And with regard to avoidance - it's rife now and has been for years; I would suggest that a Labour government would have a significantly greater appetite to collect robustly, given that Corybn and co aren't married to and very much in bed with the establishment figures who own, operate and benefit from their shady dealings.

The Labour Party is champion of double standards with private education. Mainly through the post code lottery ,whereby any decent school in a reasonable area ,the house prices rocket. So people with money push the lower end of the working class out.
I won't even mention certain labour members who educate children privately. Whilst at the same time disowning the private education system.
If certain schools were up to a decent standard ,the people who sent children to private schools would be able to send them to state schools. Thus saving themselves a pile of money. Obviously and as stated before people who use the private schools system and private hospitals are paying twice.

What you have put has nothing to do with what he was replying to. He was berating the previous poster for making it sound like he was doing the poor a favour by privately educating his children. Your only reason for posting what you did must have been for mud slinging.

Not mudslinging, it's called opinions his opinion is no better than mine and mine is no better than his. By and large we live in a free country, unlike some countries. Also it's a bit of fun.

You may be right that they are paying twice, although that is their personal choice.
However, one thing they are not doing is privately educating their children (and/or taking out private medical insurance) to reduce the burden on the state system.
The previous poster seemed to expect gratitude for his selfless acts of kindness and yet, all of his previous posts seemed to indicate that he wanted to pay less tax and reduce benefits for the disabled etc.

The state should provide a decent level of education and healthcare for all, regardless of who they are or where they live.
Decent schools whether private or state funded will always act as a magnet for parents looking to get the best education for their kids and their is little that can be done to alleviate this issue but, the Tories are planning to go one step further and re-introduce grammar schools in certain areas

June 9th labour have pulled off a stunning election victory. The cafes of islington have sold out of skinny lattes and smoked salmon.
Meanwhile in Downing Street Diane and jezza gaze at each other in admiration. Who would thought she said ,that years ago when we were on that motor bike of yours we would end up here.
The phone rings Diane picks up, it's Donald for you jezza ,oh hell I don't want to talk to him, no it's Donald tusk the eu negotiations boss. Jezza congratulations, thanks Donald ,any chance if you starting brexit negotiations, sorry Donald the allotment needs weeding also the spuds need earthing up.
Ok we just need you to send some money to start things offf, how much Donald. Not much about 100 million smackers ,I know it won't be a problem as you believe in wealth distribution . We are the same in the eu we like distributing the British wealth.
Ok Donald not a problem will send it over asap. Rings John Mc Donnell John ,we need a million smackers for the eu, no problem I will get the Bank of England to print some money. We had some gold somewhere but I can't seem to find it , I might ring Gordon brown I believe he is an expert on gold.

Maybe and what would Mrs May be thinking ?

I wish i hadn't been such a greedy bi***, we still had 3 years to negotiate and I though that everyone would vote for me

Common sense tells you the numbers don't add up.

I dunno, I think the Europeans are more likely to take a more reasonable approach once we drop this whole "Give us what we want or we'll become a tax haven" bilge. I'd much rather have the likes of Starmer, Gardiner and Thornberry than Davis, Boris and that clown Fox.

If Labour do pull off an unexpected victory, and get into power, and the Conservatives are left in tatters, will the Leave vote still be seen as a bad idea? Bearing in mind none of this would have been possible without it and the whole country would still be sat around wanting to stick forks in Cameron and Osborne's eyes.

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Oh Mrs May, what have you done, everything has turned to s***

Morning all. Welcome to the banana republic.

All down to Mrs May.

You are one hundred percent correct.

It would seem not.

Agreed - you have to give credit where it is due Corbyn engaged with younger people and he got them out to vote. The turnouts were extraordinary. He fought a brilliant campaign and you have to applaud his integrity.

Despite the worst campaign in living memory the Tories still won the popular vote and have c60 more seats than the Labour - imagine what the result would have been if say Boris or Hammond had fronted it rather than the wet fish that did!! Labour are only in the position they were in 2010 - so no great shakes really.

Even letting Boris, Hammond, Hunt etc contribute, with her at the helm promoting the Tory party policies rather than her running a singular presidential campaign. Shambolic.

Soft Brexit, No Jock independence and a soft border in NI all in 24 hours. Maybe not all bad

I'd take that.