Bercow has broken Parliamentary Protocol, he is a weasel, he is in good company in the HoP.

Can you give us any examples? Because Andrea Leadsom of all people saying something doesn't make it true.

Part of the Speaker's role is to stand up for the supremacy of Parliament over the Executive. The Executive rarely likes this but that's their role.

His job is also to be impartial - can anyone really say he has been impartial on Brexit?

Indeed it is, and abercow has played politics with the role, I can't wait for him to be gone, odious little wretch.

God, getting actual fact-based answers out of you Brexiteers is hard. Can you actually summon up some facts rather then just more of your very confidently stated assertions??

I've watched spent plenty of time watching BBC Parliament and seen nothing to suggest to suggest a lack of impartiality other than a bias towards Parliamentary supremacy over the executive. Which is his job, and should be the interest of anyone who cares about process and government accountability.

And it was the Supreme Court, no less, who ruled that it was the lawful responsibility of Parliament alone, to process Brexit

Quote ="The Ghost of '99"God, getting actual fact-based answers out of you Brexiteers is hard. Can you actually summon up some facts rather then just more of your very confidently stated assertions?? I've watched spent plenty of time watching BBC Parliament and seen nothing to suggest to suggest a lack of impartiality other than a bias towards Parliamentary supremacy over the executive. Which is his job, and should be the interest of anyone who cares about process and government accountability.'" Do you actually read what people post, I voted REMAIN, but I believe in democracy. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -democracy

Quote ="The Ghost of '99"God, getting actual fact-based answers out of you Brexiteers is hard. Can you actually summon up some facts rather then just more of your very confidently stated assertions?? I've watched spent plenty of time watching BBC Parliament and seen nothing to suggest to suggest a lack of impartiality other than a bias towards Parliamentary supremacy over the executive. Which is his job, and should be the interest of anyone who cares about process and government accountability.'" Do you actually read what people post, I voted REMAIN, but I believe in democracy. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -democracy

Never mind Bercow, it now appears that Parliament has been shut down illegally, by the Prime Minister.
He should resign now !
Lying, cheating b'stard.

A decision on appeal, in Scotland, Supreme Court will rule (again) on Tuesday.

I now about the High Court case but, the comments from the 3 Scottish Judges were scathing.
I really dont se this one getting reversed and it seems to show just how much contempt Boris actually has for democracy.

I may just paste up the reply sent from my own MP regarding the proroguing of Parliament.
It should make very interesting reading, especially if next weeks case rules against the Government.

IF, and the size of that IF is not quntifiable at the moment, Boris and his ministers gave Her Majesty the wrong, illegal, guidance knowingly, then that is an act of treason, is it not?

If she sent him to the Tower, it would do us all a favour and then they could chuck him in a ditch and even he would be happy.

I can't see how the issue is justiciable in the slightest, as 2 courts have already found. It's a political issue, not a legal one. The court summary reads more like an opinion piece than a legal finding. Show me the law or act broken and I'll change my mind.

The judges have apparently reached their conclusion based on new, partly redacted evidence, which they have mysteriously said should not be disclosed. Finding it "improper" or not within "generally accepted standards" is one thing, but still doesn't make it a legal matter. There is no written constitution defining the legalities of prorogation, so how can they rule on it?

Prorogation is not unusual, certainly after the longest sitting of Parliament in history (ongoing since June 2017). Yes, the timing is highly convenient for Johnson, a fact he is of course only too aware and proroguing now is certainly no accident as we all know. But is it illegal?

And does it matter what he said to the Queen? She's bound to accede whatever. He could have said it was for a Caribbean cruise and she can't say no.

Anyway, what's the point in recalling Parliament? Most of the self-serving vultures haven't been doing their jobs for over 3 years now, and are only interested in delaying Brexit until they can overturn it.

How many times til this falsehood is squashed once and for all.

The only reason we're still in the EU is because too many Brexiteers voted not to leave; enough people who believed in Remain voted for it to pass.

I didn't mention the votes. But yes the results are frustrating and while the extreme Brexiteers/ERG need to wind their necks in, far more Remainers need to honour the result of the referendum over their personal beliefs or party orders.

My point is that there is, and has been throughout, a large number of Remain MPs dedicated to placing hurdles in the path at every opportunity, with the hope of ultimately reversing the entire thing, all the while hardheartedly trying appear sincere in their promise to "respek da wefewendum". Couple that with Corbyn, who prioritises getting into No.10 and bringing the government down (I actually don't think he cares much about Brexit either way), and yes the small number of extreme Brexiteers, and you have a recipe for never achieving anything. As we have seen.

Parliament is at stalemate and is achieving nothing. Prorogue and stay prorogued.

That whole "taking back control" was a crock of **** then.

We haven't left yet. HTH.

You're right, we havent but, the preservation of Parliament and its necessity to ensure the rule of law only gets a mention as a stick with which to beat the EU.
It seems that those politicians, most in favour of leaving actually dont give a toss, just as long as they get their way.
Seems like a good reason for remaining and taking our advice form Brussels

As a young man in the late 1960s I used to wonder how Hitler ever managed to come to power and sadly since then there has been two clear examples of how it could happen. The first was in 1979 when Thatcher came to power. The way in which her policies polarized the nation, coupled with her use of the police as political enforcers was shocking. The second example is once again down to a right wing tory government. Who would have thought that a British PM would close down parliament and even contemplate breaking the law to force through a policy which no longer has a majority backing. These are indeed sad times.

Have you been watching the BBC series on Hitlers rise to power..scary stuff and very relevant.

I think we are somewhat distanced from the policies of the Hitler's party. The Tories are divided purely on Brexit and Boris taking extreme measures to resolve the issue once and for all.

There is nothing else in their policies that is that extreme - now Labour that is a different matter.

It will all be OK once the private schools are closed, assets seized, pride, determination and ambition stifled.

Its all about control - you can see it on here, those to left always know what's best for everyone (sic) and cannot understand why everyone else can be so stupid as to not think like them




5 years of Corbyn and maybe even the die-hards will have changed their mind. You only have to look at their policy on Brexit - they will negotiate a leave that includes remaining in the customs union and single market and offer that against remain in a ballot i.e. two versions of remain. The leader can even lead by stating which side he is on!!

Why not leave with Labour's deal or leave no deal - have some guts Corbyn.

You used "left" and "think" in the same sentence, shame on you!

Maybe they could make Diane Abbott education minister - now that would be fun. Private education is good for me and my kids but you common people shouldn't have access to it!! Some comrade!!