Not so much the Mail and their agenda but personally i think the family of Kane Gorny are right to be angry by it, as they feel let down by them.

They've closed the comments and hidden the six already made. I think they might have already taken an absolute battering over that piece.

I'm not surprised, its probably as close to outright racism that an editor thought they could get without being prosecuted - you can only assume what the original drafts must have been like.

Its good however that the Olympics have driven the extreme right wing commentators and politicians out into the open - we know exactly how their minds work now and where they would like us to be in their utopia - we knew they were still there from the last time a Conservative government was in power, they just don't fly their colours very often, they must be feeling brave now.

Must have re-opened them.

If there was ever an arguement for no more free press, that article is it.

Am I reading this correctly? Are they really saying what it looks like they're saying?

Yep, and thats apparently the approved version, the one that got past the editor and the lawyers.

You obviously either didn't bother reading the article or are having trouble with basic English Language comprehension. Otherwise you'd have seen this bit:

[iHow does the family of Kane – and indeed the thousands of others we have heard of and the many more we haven’t – feel when they see the NHS being shamefully glorified at the biggest sporting bonanza in the world?

Sick to the stomach, [uI imagine[/u[/i

He "imagines" how the family may feel. How the fook does he know how they may feel?

It's shoddy journalism of th very worst kind, eagerly supped up by clueless idiots like you.

No they ain't

If I were a journalist I'd be offended by anyone calling it that.



No, really it isn't. Its an argument for responsible journalism.

There you go again, someone offers an opinion even slightly that of yours and you get all personal.

I didn't agree with the article but they probably know how she feels by checking statements she has gone on record saying, maybe, but you go ahead with your drivel and personal attacks

They have re-opened them.
I was going to comment but then I saw that I was warned that 'Libellous and abusive comments are not allowed'.
I was so staggered by the hypocracy of that statement that I decided not to bother.

Then you write and report the comments that are on record. You absolutely do not do "I imagine". That is not journalism.

I wasn't saying that should come to pass, by the way

I wouldn't worry too much, my opinion on the McCann disappearance was dismissed because i had a picture of Noel Gallagher as my avatar at the time

Granted and i agree with that, there are plenty of actual quotes they could have actually used.

The thing is some people seem to think all doctors and nurses are angels and that criticising them is so form of crime, i'm proud of the NHS but then i've never been on the negative side of them, my wife, a former NHS worker, has a rather reserved view of them due to personal circumstances, and has an extremely negative view of the MaCmillan nurses, who she doesn't regard as the saints the general population like to make them out as, after hearing what happened to her mother it does make me weary.
Not liking the NHS is a fact for quite a few people.

The article in hand though is generally drawn on the legally acceptable limit of the racist line, the lazy journalism aside, it's a needless hate filled piece of crap, but we live in a land of free speech and it's better to air it and debate than ban and punish.

Getting back to the ceremony, If you watch it on the bbc iplayer the section between 11 and 25 minutes about the industrial revolution is absolutely superb. I especially loved the music. Think its called And i will kiss by Underworld.

[url=http://botherer.org/2012/07/28/the-daily-mail-and-how-an-nhs-death-means-racism-is-fine/An excellent dissemination of the Mail article and its subsequent edits[/url

One mustn't say nasty things about pretty white Olympic Athletes... Must we; www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/da ... le-1182296 I follow Boyle on Twitter, he makes jokes about numerous people, yet it's THIS one that makes the news... hmmmm, can't think why Over-sensitive f**kers writing that article Is it wrong that that picture does it for me...?

One mustn't say nasty things about pretty white Olympic Athletes... Must we; www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/da ... le-1182296 I follow Boyle on Twitter, he makes jokes about numerous people, yet it's THIS one that makes the news... hmmmm, can't think why Over-sensitive f**kers writing that article Is it wrong that that picture does it for me...?

Yes, it's very wrong.


If she looks like anyone, surely it's Odo (?) from Star Trek DS9?

Quote ="100% Wire"One mustn't say nasty things about pretty white Olympic Athletes... Must we; www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/da ... le-1182296 I follow Boyle on Twitter, he makes jokes about numerous people, yet it's THIS one that makes the news... hmmmm, can't think why Over-sensitive f**kers writing that article Is it wrong that that picture does it for me...? '" I don't think that colour comes into it at all, why did you mention it ? I agree that the writer of that article is the one trying to stir up something out of nothing, its a crap bad taste joke of the type that Frankie Boyle has made his name and money from, nothing to see here at all. The only surprise is that he deleted his tweet - is he getting soft, doesn't want publicity any more, or is he turning all establishment and now wants only good publicity ?

Quote ="100% Wire"One mustn't say nasty things about pretty white Olympic Athletes... Must we; www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/da ... le-1182296 I follow Boyle on Twitter, he makes jokes about numerous people, yet it's THIS one that makes the news... hmmmm, can't think why Over-sensitive f**kers writing that article Is it wrong that that picture does it for me...? '" I don't think that colour comes into it at all, why did you mention it ? I agree that the writer of that article is the one trying to stir up something out of nothing, its a crap bad taste joke of the type that Frankie Boyle has made his name and money from, nothing to see here at all. The only surprise is that he deleted his tweet - is he getting soft, doesn't want publicity any more, or is he turning all establishment and now wants only good publicity ?

Quote ="JerryChicken"I don't think that colour comes into it at all, why did you mention it ? I agree that the writer of that article is the one trying to stir up something out of nothing, its a crap bad taste joke of the type that Frankie Boyle has made his name and money from, nothing to see here at all. The only surprise is that he deleted his tweet - is he getting soft, doesn't want publicity any more, or is he turning all establishment and now wants only good publicity ?'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_wh ... n_syndrome Ok, Adlington isn't missing, but you get the point

Quote ="JerryChicken"I don't think that colour comes into it at all, why did you mention it ? I agree that the writer of that article is the one trying to stir up something out of nothing, its a crap bad taste joke of the type that Frankie Boyle has made his name and money from, nothing to see here at all. The only surprise is that he deleted his tweet - is he getting soft, doesn't want publicity any more, or is he turning all establishment and now wants only good publicity ?'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_wh ... n_syndrome Ok, Adlington isn't missing, but you get the point

Any 'news' story that is basically consists of "you have Twitter. So here's something you probably read yesterday" / "You don't have Twitter. Here's something you could have read if you did" deserves no space in a newspaper or online, imnvho. Journalism ≠ +C and +V, with the odd loaded adjective ("vile"icon_wink.gif thrown in.

[url=http://sinhaha.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/aidan-burley-mp-hello-from-a-fellow-brit/An excellent critique of that buffoon Aidan Burley's comments[/url

Daily Mail guilty of tokenism in attempt to disguise its wanton sexism (see last picture): www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... storm.html

Daily Mail guilty of tokenism in attempt to disguise its wanton sexism (see last picture): www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... storm.html