1 - Less manual labour I guess, H&S at work being improved drastically
2 - They do, just in established out of hours drop in centres
3 - The Daily Mail reckons it's because there are very few left
4 - Rammed with darkies and immigrants eh, must have been hell. Did you call the Daily Mail?
5 - These cases will always happen and may not be self inflicted. If you punch a dangerously drunk man and rupture his liver, is he there because he was dangerously drunk or because you punched him? Chicken and egg stuff.

My experience of A&E departments is that they do the job they are there for if you really need it. If you aren't life threatening you wait a mandatory 2 hours. I'm not sure if this is a deterrent, laziness (Which there is unquestionably a lot of in the NHS despite them doing a sterling job on the whole) or inefficiency, but it needs to be improved.

Why did you visit 2 different A&E departments?

My point is, why is there a disproportionate, apparent misuse of A&E by some people? Perhaps they can't be bothered making doctor's appointments? Maybe it's because doctor's appointments are often hard to come by? Surely, A&E should be used appropriately and by people in real need and not just as a means of queue jumping? Perhaps there should be a charge made for persistent abusers of the system, drugs, and alcohol? There are some serious issues in all this, not least just how depraved our society is.

No idea. Boredom. Shock at how out country has changed. Who knows?

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DALLY IN A SL@G THE NHS OFF SHOCKER!!!

So, H&S was trying to avoid accident prevention – to Dally; and A&E was, for him, an 'unpleasant' place to be ...

The plot thickens.

Mrs D took junior back to school today. One of the nurses was horrified by the incompetence of the two hospitals. Hospital 1 stuck a dressing on with the wrong tape but worse hospital 2's Max-Fac specialist put a dry rather than wet dressing on the wound (against what hospital 1 had previously got right). In consquence, school took half an hour to carefully remove the dressing that had stuck to the wound, whilst junior was screaming in pain. As Mr Max-Fac wants junior to go back a week to day, he'll no doubt get a piece of Mrs D's mind!

1/ no idea what you are getting at, but saurday is still the main sporting day, hence, the more chance of injury.
2/ doctors still work out of hours, but some do private work aswell, others think that working 60+ hours/ week is enough.
3/ white middle/class are proberley private protected ( health-wise)
4/ 8 people in A+E and the place was rammed???? On a saturday? Staff werent white or English because they were neither. Obviously Asians who had desires to be doctors and nurses, and thus, had undertaken the training needed to do so.
5/ Because we have a NHS, everyone is entitalled to mediacal help, though I must agree, druggies can rot in their cess for all I care.

1. The point I was making was it was Saturday and there were no sporting, etc injuries but the place was still packed.
2. Clearly not enough.
3. I don't know of health cover that covers A&E requirements.
4. No, 8 white people. Loads of other people.
5. Yes but it seems to me that triage does not usually prioritise the potentially serious cases over the self-inflicted and non-serious. That's what I find wrong not the access to treatment for all.

I think for people who turn up to A&E rather than going through GPs there needs to be sanctions. It would be wrong to charge them because that may put off people in genuine need who play by the rules. Maybe each person / family should have a scorecard and when they've done it 2 or 3 times they should be charged?

You should fooking know.
You're never out of the place with them offspring of yours.

I've only ever been to a doctors/hospital, for my own needs, once in the last 35 years.
It'll be just my luck to be stuck in a queue behinds the likes of your tribe, if and when I require assistance.

Working in A&E is perceived as the the less prestigious end of the medical profession, hence the fact that so few doctors aspire to it.

Far better to be a GP, work 9-5 from behind a desk and get paid £120,000 p/a.

Dally, if I have an injury or painful condition I don't give a toss what colour, religion or nationality the medical staff in A & E are as long as they are qualified and treat my problem.

Nor do I.

Middle class/risk-averse?

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I've edited that post to better explain what I intended to say.

Alot of our visits are due to parademics getting called. They always insist on taking junior to hospital even when we don't want to. The problem with going to hospital when there is no actual injury is that we may as well be taking double-Dutch as none of the doctors have a clue what we are talking about as junior's condition is beyond their knowledge and expertise.

The post about the prestige of A&E rings true.

I've spent the last eight days, for 12 hours a day, sat in my local maternity ward with Mrs Scooter Nik. Of the staff there, I'd say that a good 80% were of white, British origin. The odd thing though was, that of the 20% that weren't, the vast majority where in the more highly qualified posts.

This is to say that the midwives, nurses, cleaning and ancillery staff, Sister were all English, but all the specialist staff bar the anesthatist were from abroad. I've no idea what that tells us, but it must say something.

I'd also like to say that the Shorpe General Hospital's Maternity Unit staff were incredibly helpful, knowlegeable, efficient and informative from the midwife assistants at the coal face to the consultant we saw on a regular enough basis. Their effiency was in no way affected by their ethnicity or nationality.

Much prefer to use the local NHS drop in centres that are about these days for anything i would consider an emergency

Viagra repeat prescription?

I know what you mean, recently my wife suffered chest pains and we called the out of hours number at our surgery, the doctor rang an ambulance and sent her direct to A&E where she was promptly seen by the staff (bloody darkies as well), put on a heart monitor and checked overnight, a consultant (another bloody darky

) came to see her within an hour and returned a few times to check on her as well as regular visits from other medically trained 'darkies'. We were partly relieved at about 6 am when a nice 'white' face approached, only to discover she was from
Poland or 'somewhere' like that (well they all sound the same don't they). We were greatly relieved when she was given the all clear by the consultant and allowed to go home without him getting a set of bones out, throwing them on the floor and doing a dance just to make 100% sure she was ok.

When ever I've needed A&E I haven't given a tuppeny where the doctor/nurse was from and their skin colour.

Talking of the NHS, the Minister for Murdoch now plans to sell of lashings more of our health service so that his mates can stick their noses even further into the trough.

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It wouldn't be top of my list if my heart was packing in, I just need them to know what they are doing.

oohh, I much prefer a nice little asian nurse tending to my every need



much more sympathetic than the stern, stony faced western nurses....

...well, we all have our little foibles...

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can't help it WZ ! old MN habits die hard...