Shes cleverly avoided them. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.



But when pressed last night by the small business owner in the crowd Jezza didn't say that he said do you want to see XYZ and if not we all need to pay more. That business owner was on Sky news this morning reiterating his concerns about CT, abolishing Zero Hours contracts which he uses for Undergraduates and also the £10 min wage. He is voting for TM this time based solely on that.

Well boohoo for him, under labour plans, he'd still be paying less than 7 years ago. He'd also be paying less than vast majority of Europe or any other advanced economy.

The 0hrs thing is easily avoided by awarding a contract guaranteeing minimum amounts of work and overtime available.

As for the £10 minimum wage, it's only £1 an hour more than what the Tories were originally promising (yet another U-Turn) We need to move away from this economy that is propped up by private debt. That's the reason interest rates are so low and have been for so long, because any increase would push many, many people over the edge. Higher wages protects us from that and stimulates economy.

Yes, of course he was on Sky news...

Did they also feature the midwife who trashed Mrs May's stuff and nonsense about the NHS, or the man who turned to his friend on camera during one of her droning non-answers and said, "that's bollox?"

Do you think that she looked "strong and stable". really ?

As I've said before, I'm no fan of Corbyn but, of the two of them, he looked far more assured than Mrs May, who was flapping like a fish out of water when pressed on the social care "cap".

She has made more U turns in her short time in power than any leader in the last 40 years and has no political beliefs.

She called an election at short notice, despite saying several times that there would be no snap election on the basis for needing a "strong and stable" government to aid the Brexit negotiations, which will be done and dusted well before the next election was due.

Devoid of morals and with zero political conviction, Mrs May is not fit to lead her own party, never mind the country and she says that Labour and the SNP would be the coalition of chaos.


Btw, please explain where I shot myself in the foot

Lets hope for Labours sake he is a one off!!

The breaking down of doors would only have stopped if there was a Police officer stationed outside the actual door - having policemen on the streets isn't going to stop a targeted attack of that nature - as well you know

Do you think more officers would enable a quicker response to an incident such as this or, would increased numbers of officers slow down the response ?

They (the police) dont even come out to break in's anymore, unless someone has been injured/assaulted.
This may be why reported crime is falling in some areas, as there is little point in reporting it !

10 days after a break in at my place I'm still waiting for the police to come and take a statement. The night CID came round and SOCO came to examine the next morning, but nothing since. I've been given the name of the officer, but haven't had any contact, not even "sorry, we're all on duty in the city centre because of the terror alert". Just silence.

I'd happily pay a bit more tax to get numbers back up to deal with stuff like this properly. The scrotes know they'll never get caught and will just carry on doing what they're doing. Whatever happened to the party of law and order?

Not wishing to defend the lack of police numbers but, in the circumstances, you would expect priority to be given to the terrorist incident.
Getting broken into is not pleasant but, the reality is that they dont often catch the thieves, unless they are particularly stupid and I think even you would want them to deal with the terror threat first ?

Absolutely, and I wasn't meaning I should take priority. However, if there were more police around I could give my statement, let the insurance deal with it all and move on. The lack of contact is the thing that's bugging me most, even though I understand why.

We had two cars taken as well as other stuff, but haven't been updated on whether they've been seen on the ANPR cameras so we're completely in the dark.

Generally the lack of contact isn't acceptable but I fully accept priorities are elsewhere. If thousands of coppers hadn't been made redundant, maybe I wouldn't be "complaining"

Of course not - the police are scaremongering and just need to modernise their methods. Maybe they could send a drone round when you've been burgled - take a few pictures, record your statement, spit out a crime number - bingo, your insurance claim is underway, and the few coppers who remain in a job can focus on the real criminals.

Of course you could employ a lot me police officers so everyone can get their insurance claims settled earlier!!

Perhaps if we spent the money tackling the root cause of so many robberies then we wouldn't actually need so many note taking form filling guys/girls in blue uniforms. Perhaps if the elephant in the room i.e. drugs were tackled using an enlightened approach then domestic crime might actually drop?

Of course its so much better to take the Labour approach throw loads of money at it - that will sort it. Pity they struggle with how much it will cost

The bigger problem for Labour will be realising the actual amount of cash that they may have calculated.
ALL Businesses will find ways to become more "tax efficient", it's part of running a business.
They may reduce their profits by investing in capital, amending their pay structures, paying higher contributions into pension funds etc, etc.
What they wont do is, just roll over and accept a higher tax burden and in the case of small businesses, why should they, when the big boys are paying rock all.

I agree they will get some of the money year 1 but after that not a chance. The idea about reducing taxation % levels was to increase the overall tax take which does appear to be happening. Perhaps if more focus was put on the take itself rather than the headline numbers then that would give a more balanced approach.

It is like judging the NHS on the performance of A&E it gives a distorted view of the service.

You miss my point; and who do you think tackles the root cause of more serious crime? Community police officers of course - who have been decimated by the ideological Tory cuts.

It's nice to see the level of respect you have for the police - "note taking girls and guys in blue uniforms." Classy that.

Community police officers don't sort serious social issues like drug abuse, gang crime or drink driving they are society issues that need innovative high level solutions. You miss the point completely.

Last week I watched a program at abuse of minor by Pakistani men in Rochdale - 3 girls. The police allowed that abuse to go one despite knowing what was going on for years. Not one police officer was disciplined or lost their job - no acceptance they got it wrong. Same goes for Hillsborough etc. When the police stop covering up their mistakes and closing ranks that will be a time to have some respect for the service and how it conducts itself.

TBF SY Police have accepted they made mistakes at Hillsborough.

Is that the same force that had to remove David Crompton because he tried to shift the blame away from the police after the inquest verdict?

I agree entirely. What is your enlightened approach?



An enlightened approach will take investment initially. Enlightenment & investment are not words I would ever associate with the Tories.

Moving on slightly.
The value of the pound has dropped this morning, amid fears of a hung parliament.

Have the Tories taken the electorate for granted, again.

First, it was Brexit, where Cameron was "certain" of victory and now, we have T.May calling a snap election (despite saying many, many times that she wouldn't) and expecting to rack up a huge majority but, it seems that "we (the voters) are having none of it.
Although I'm not a fan of Corbyn, I'm so disenchanted with politics that I would absolutely love to see Mrs May fall flat on her face over this one.
Under the false pretence of needing a "strong and stable" government to carry out Brexit negotiations and having 3 years left in power (and Brexit apparently needs less than 2 years to conclude), the greedy Troies, tried to make a "land grab" for votes and seats from all the other parties.
Thankfully, it seems that the young and apathetic voters have registered to vote in huge numbers, making a Tory majority far less certain.
It's absolutely hilarious and Mrs May could be finding out what life is like down at the local job centre

Corbyn to take the stage in the leaders debate now with May opting to keep her distance. I would say it's a big risk from the PM but judging from her dire performances so far under any kind of grilling she has probably made the right call.

Indeed
She is excellent at delivering a scripted speech but, very weak under pressure (neither strong nor stable

).
However, with most of the other politicians from the left of the political spectrum, apart from the busted flush that is UKIP, there will be a fair amount of consensus coming from the panel, which makes Labour look like the "best" option.
Unless some of the other parties really rip into Corbyn (which is unlikely as they all have "similar" policies), this will be good for Labour.

I think it's important to differentiate between the lessons SYP have obviously learnt from dealing with the incident to the more murky goings on around the cover up and attempts to blame supporters for what happened.

I do know many of the officers to blame for those murky goings on are long gone.

Ukip left of political spectrum!?

Bit of a calculated risk too by Corbyn because the others could all gang up and put boot into the biggest dog present, however, he's seen off Andrew Neil and Paxman in good order so Nuttall, Farron etc should be a cakewalk.

No I don't miss your point - you're just wilfully misinformed, thanks I suspect, to your refusal to waver from the Tory/Daily Mail dogma. Google the Broken Windows theory of crime and disorder - then think again about whether community policing impacts positively on more serious crime.

Your second point is a different one - nobody would deny that there has been corruption and malfeasance in certain forces; it's rather a stretch though to use Hillsborough as an example in support of Mrs May's savage cuts to the police force. Which government (and newspaper) colluded with the corrupt South Yorkshire force, not only over Hillsborough, but also prior to that during the miners strike?