Who or what was the being that created disease and virus ?

I think I want to worship that being or deity for it seems to be a lot more powerful and intelligent than your God.

like I've said, I'm happy to let your hate fuelled vengeful God to strike me down with a bolt of lightening, I'm playing poker in a casino later, so it's a nice public place, so when he does it can be all over the media.

or maybe, it's a fairy story, told to keep idiots in check?

Sin entered the world when mankind rebelled. We are responsible for it.

Keeps idiot in check how, exactly?

And God doesn't strike people down under the present covenant.

It's only taken 150 pages.

Can anybody tell me who created the creator?

So we invented a force more powerful and more deadly (because people die from it), than your God ?

Christ, we're good aren't we ?

Or did we invent the God as well ?

No, we didn't invent it, but it was a natural consequence of our rebellion.

Interesting question, but the Bible does not indicate that God was created. All we have is John 1:1,

[iIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.[/i

So there are things in this world that have nothing whatsoever to do with a Creator, there are things that exist that were not made by a God at all ?

Like the Giants Causeway for instance ?

God created free will. Sin and death are consequences of our disobedience.

you're an idiot, and you appear to be in check

and I am giving your spiteful of a god a chance, prove his existence through me, in a public place, can't be too much to ask, I mean, this guy (white, with a beard, from Jerusalem, with the ability to impregnate women without consent (which makes him a rapist) who wiped out mankind because they displeased him (which makes him a murderer) and then flooded the planet (but he didn't FACTS tell us that))

whilst I'm waiting I'll read about Scientology, at least their fantasy is interesting.

Sin, and death, and viruses (which are also living organisms), and disease, and the Giants Causeway - what do the Creationists think of your theories ?

We'll have to compare notes Standee, I'm reading about the Mormon's they're ing mental.

scientology appears to come from a giant intergallatic battle, whereas mormons can have more than one wife, I reckon laser guns and warp drives are much better than having multiple women you resent!

God will NOT be tested.

[iDo not test the LORD your God as you did at Massah.[/i Deuteronomy 6:16

[iJesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.[/i Luke 4:12

Viruses and disease did not exist before the Fall. Neither did sin, obviously.

I'm a Creationist.

It could well be, but what about the underpants?

What a selling point!

And of course that America is a great holiday place when you've just died.

How can that be if you believe that your God did not create everything.

You have to admit that for your God to have created what he believed to be the perfect sentient being in The Garden of Eden, it didn't take very long before an even more powerful deity came along and fekked things up good and proper for him.

All that was needed was the power of thought and BOOM! sin was born, something that your God had never even thought of and not constructed any built in defences against.

Shortly after that along came disease and virus, living organisms so small that your God just never saw them coming and suddenly his beautiful creations are dying all over the place.

Good job that sin had come along in the first place because Adam and Eve wouldn't have lasted long against the other deity's far more powerful forces.

Funnily enough last weekend there was an old BBC documentary on telly here called "Did Darwin kill God". If you haven't seen it. Have a look. I notice it's on the net.

Conor Cunningham discusses biblical interpretations and how 20th Century American creationists manufactured the tussles between science and faith being "discussed" on here.

On ABC?

They've had some really good programs on recently, some of they're day time debates are top draw.

ah right, what a quality clause, "don't ask God to prove himself, because he refuses to do so"

ie: it's a big fairy story that only the cerebrally challenged brainwashed believe in.

if he wants to Smite me today then can I suggest around 2pm would be good, will be plenty of people around me to witness it, maybe he could even use his booming voice to tell me I have displeased him.

Next you'll be telling me that thunder is God getting angry at the gays for having a bit of manoman fun?

lunatic

I reckon this heaven place is going to be pretty empty.

Beardy chap, long haired sandal bloke and kirkstaller.

Burning for ever or talking to this tit and his mates for ever.

Not a hard choice is it.

like I've always said, do I want eternity with Harry Seacombe, Thora Hird and the likes, or eternity with Jimmy Hendrix, Paula Yates and Micheal Hutchence and their pals. I think I'd rather have a pint with Hitler than kirkstaller, two sides of the same coin.

FFS

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1556131/Floods-are-judgment-on-society-say-bishops.htmlFloods are a judgement on society say bishops[/url

Two fo the idiots quoted in the article are Lords Spritual - they sit in the HoL and help form and pass laws in this country. Do we really want to rely on these mysonginistic idiots?

firk me, I was joking when I said:



these people have no place in law making (or breathing)