Do you write this type of thing as a wind up or, as I suspect, you really are that ignorant about the history of this country.

Eeeerm, welcome to the big bad World. Government Departments have routinely made, lied about, and covered up controversial decisions since Adam was a lad. Why do you think that so many cabinet papers are locked away for decades? You've surely heard of the expression "a good day to bury bad news," where minor embarrassments are released late in the day, where there has been some major event to distract the attention?
And emotive language like living in a dictatorship simply highlight the weakness of your theories. Apart from Ollie Cromwell, way back in the day, I don't recall a single UK dictator. Whilst you're googling "democracy" have a look at Censorship in the UK.



Whilst its not hard to tell the difference between a sunny day and a Northerner with a sense of grievance, this [url=http://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/10/21/why-northerners-dont-vote-tory/article[/url gives a clearer insight, rather than the overly simplistic explanation of "long memories". Some of the replies make interesting points as well. And there have been constituencies which have traditionally never returned a Tory, preferring to vote in a MP who sailed under a Socialist flag, when in truth they were Communists. I'm pretty sure there is a Tory MP down in Nottinghamshire who has a working mine within his patch, so it's not all doom and gloom.

No matter how much you deny it, Margaret Thatcher's handbagging of Scargill and his ilk, was exactly what Britain needed. Just a shame Ed Milliband lacks the Iron Ladies balls.....

Another classic example of the saying "there is no worse sight than watching ignorance in action".
One of the main reasons why this country has gone to the dogs is that woman and her cronies screwing the British public whilst showing a false smile. The consequences of their actions are the "dead zones" of unemployed, unemployable, badly educated dependent people who are the result of one of the most pernicious pieces of social engineering ever seen that wasn't genocide.
The tories have always been the party of the few and keep the rest down. Their current policies are keeping this country back as they have always done
All they want is the fruits of others labour and little legislation to help them achieve that
Basically a party of inhumane, selfish, greedy bigots. They will never change.

If what she was doing was right, why did she need to lie? She didnt handbag anyone, she lied, lied, and lied again, set communities against each other and used the police as a set of hired thugs who have not yet recovered from her leadership. Its why they danced on her grave and there were parties in the street when she died lonely and irrelevant in a hotel room and only the idealogues came out to defend her.

Major won after Thatcher - hardly unelectable.

There is only so long the old 'me dad said I shouldn't vote for the nasty torreees' will go.

No need for it to go on. Most of us who've come after can see quite plainly why we shouldn't vote for them.


There's some strange ways of looking at the world on the right...

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Augusto Pinochet.


Fookin ridiculous is this football supporter politics.

You love a bit of anti tory FSP - hence why you always fail to condemn posts like Leaguefan's above....

You can't see the obvious flaw in your previous post can you ?

Nor this one either ,,,

Condemn it then. Don't be a massive hypocrite and not condemn FSP because you agree with it.

Lets face facts. It's only FSP when its pro Tory / anti Labour.

Condemn it as FSP.

Its all Football Supporter Politics, all of it - the people at the top of the tree rely on you supporters to keep waving the flags, wearing the party ties and rosettes, all over the world political party's rely on selling you a glossy product that ultimately has little substance which you will toe the line with and follow without question.

There is good in all political systems, there is good in communism, there is good in right wing dictatorships like the venerable Pinochet, or indeed a Republican American government where you all stand on your own two feet and if you haven't got two feet then you stand on what you have.

The secret is to cherry pick the good bits and throw away the bad bits, unfortunately that not how politics work right across the globe for if we were able to vote for individual policies rather than the party then the party would cease to have a reason to exist - if we voted for an MP who would best represent us and our constituency needs and that MP was allowed to vote on issues according to his constituents requests then the party would cease to be required.

Hence the need for you to keep the tie, and the scarf and the rosette and to keep waving them at every opportunity, keep repeating the mantra, keep demonising the parts of society that are used as this years distractions, toe the party line and shout louder than your opponent - but don't ever, EVER let common sense into a line of thinking - you follow the leader and when the leader says dance you dance ...

Dancing you say Chicken?

Have you shoehorned yourself into your white suit and strutted your Political message [url=http://www.stmargaretshorsforth.org.uk/our-chur/church-hallhere[/url lately?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, as a private detective you'd be unemployable, what on earth makes you think I have any connection to St Margarets Church Hall in Horsforth ?

You live in Horsforth?

Saint Margarets is in Horsforth?

Saint Margaret's Church Hall holds dancing classes?

You own a white suit?

If the answer to the above is yes in 3 or more questions, then I suspect you are West Yorkshire's answer to Lionel Blair!

The answer to the first question is No

Which sort of makes the rest irrelevant.

That is hilarious. Tony Benn apparently admired Chairman Mao in 1976, ergo he supported Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in cambodia



There are two examples of complete idiocy here, The first is the Telegraph’s conflation of Chairman Mao and the Khmer Rouge as if they were in cahoots when one of the groups to suffer most in the purges and killing fields were ethnic Chinese.

The 2nd is ajw71’s hypocritical attempts to have a pop at Tony Benn using an article which somehow extrapolates saying “In my opinion, [Chairman Mao will undoubtedly be regarded as one of the greatest – if not the greatest – figures of the 20th century” to support for the Khmer Rouge, when there are examples of British politicians who did directly support the Khmer Rouge, A lying bitch who voted to recognize the Khmer Rouge as the legitimate rulers of Cambodia in the UN even when their evil was known, There was a heartless woman who, fully 7 years after Tony Benns comments in the column provided sent the SAS to train the Khmer Rouge, a british prime minister who spent years lying about sending an SAS team to train the Khmer Rouge in killing, setting up booby traps, general murder on the Thai Border before when she had left power her own party admitted it, a horrible woman who knew about and accepted humanitarian supplies destined for the millions dying in Cambodia being redirected to the Khmer Rouge, the one who even as late as 1988 said[i “There’s a much, much more reasonable grouping within that title, Khmer Rouge…who will have to play some part in the future government.”[/i Thats 4 years AFTER Sam Waterstone's Oscar nomination btw.

Can we have a guess who that woman was?

Sissy Spacek?

Close, it was Julie Goodyear.

Apologies.

I shall flog the Office Junior for relying on an out of date Electoral Role, although there are still grave suspicions regarding the white suit......

re Cahoots! What a cracker of a word. As the Chinese supplied the Khmer Rouge with weapons, all done with the support and knowledge of the American Administration, would that be regarded in TA land as being in cahoots?



And the Blessed Margaret managed all this on her own?

Or was she part of a devilish conspiracy consisting of America, China, and the UN in this political strategy?

The very same UN officials who welcomed back The Khmer Rouge to Phnom Penh ?

Where incidentally,Khieu Samphan, Pol Pot’s prime minister during the years of genocide, took the salute of UN troops with their commander, the Australian general John Sanders stood beside him.

How very odd, that information that is easily available, was not mentioned in your foot stamping outburst.....

I think we can hazard a guess, eh comrade?

Not really considering the Khmer Rouge came to power in 1975 and Mao died in 1976. The link is very, very, very tenuous

Its pretty weird to say it was a conspiracy between the UK, US, China and the UN, when the it was the UK, US and China who voted for those measures in the UN. It was the Wicked Witch and Reagan who voted for the Khmer Rouge to be the supported government of the UN.

And it wasnt the UN who sent the SAS to the Thai Border to train the Khmer Rouge was it.

Maybe we can use the same logic as the Telegraph, David Cameron is an avowed neo-liberal capitalist with a declared love of Margaret Thatcher, Gideon Osborne cried at her funeral, As Ta Mak, Khmer Rouge Military Leader said [i"All the foreigners involved have to be called to court, and there will be no exceptions . . . Madeleine Albright, Margaret Thatcher, Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George Bush . . . we are going to invite them to tell the world why they supported the Khmer Rouge."[/i all avowed neo-liberal capitalists,

ergo David Cameron and Gideon Osborne supported the Khmer Rouge.

and Augstin Pinochet

And for a while Saddam Hussein

and the Apartheid Government of South Africa

And Zia Ul-Haq

and Osama Bin Laden

and the Afghan Taliban

They say you can judge a persons life by the company they keep and how people react when they die....................

Didn't you say the Iron Lady was irrelevant a few pages back. You do seem to like talking about her a lot considering how irrelevant she was.

Oh and who is Gideon? Please explain Pokey TA.