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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"Boris is simply a laughing stock - his excuses are lame and represent the office of PM in a terrible light. The less said about his concubine the better'"
Which concubine you on about here zoom boom?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Suppose It's too early in the day to ask about Friday, or have you done your research already
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You asked about Tuesday and Wednesday and I gave you examples. In respect of Friday we now have the question of did he offer to help the flat donor with arranging a government backed exhibition. It is not very hard and definitely doesn’t need research, I bet even you could find it if you wanted to but I guess you don’t because everyday he makes your support look badly advised.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You asked about Tuesday and Wednesday and I gave you examples. In respect of Friday[u we now have the question of did he offer to help the flat donor with arranging a government backed exhibition. It is not very hard and definitely doesn’t need research,[/u I bet even you could find it if you wanted to but I guess you don’t because everyday he makes your support look badly advised.'"
Thanks for the examples btw, just one thing I find puzzling and contradictory, if it's not very hard and doesn't need research, why are you now asking the question of did he offer to help the flat donor with arranging a government backed exhibition, which leads me to think you haven't done your research and have reverted back to type, blagging your way through again, thoroughly disappointing
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| It is only possible to ask when the attempt to cover it up comes to life light which in this case was because he was having to deal with another attempted cover up. The evidence he tried to hide from the first investigation was released to a second investigation disclosing a possible third which is so new it is still to be investigated. I am afraid not rocket science even you could find it but I guess you don’t because he makes you look a fool to continue to defend his actions.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It is only possible to ask when the attempt to cover it up comes to life light which in this case was because he was having to deal with another attempted cover up. [uThe evidence he tried to hide from the first investigation was released to a second investigation disclosing a possible third which is so new it is still to be investigated.[/u I am afraid not rocket science even you could find it but I guess you don’t [ubecause he makes you look a fool to continue to defend his actions.[/u'"
Not really sure what to make of your explanation under lined as it looks like you don't either, possibly another botched job in your research.
Surely would it not be myself what makes me look foolish in my defence of Mr Johnson? but you know as well as I do that I have not defended him but simply asked you to defend your usual accusations against him, nice to see your still playing the guessing game again
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| Was he reinvestigated for the first omission yes because he had not told the investigator the whole truth.
Was the Conservative party investigated for the actions they took defending de Pfeffel YES
The second investigation was provided with evidence that was released to the public yesterday which immediately raised additional questions regarding his actions.
I cannot make it much simpler but you keep denying the facts he lied and continues to do so and I wonder other than you how many on here think you do not defend his actions.
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| The only reason I visit the sin bin these days is to read SP’s daily beat down on chissitt. It’s hilarious
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| I don’t know if he is actually this stupid or just trying to be obnoxious to cover his stupidity.
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| Labour mayor of Liverpool suspended due to police investigation of alleged fraud. Unite Union under investigation as to building a conference in Birmingham. Massive cost overrun.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"The only reason I visit the sin bin these days is to read SP’s daily beat down on chissitt. It’s hilarious'"
Oh dear Stephie nothing alters same old same old, 1/10, 0/10 for content, 0/10 for effort, and 1/10 for predictability
The only reason your on the sin bin is it's the only board your not banned on, apart from the VT where everybody is bored to tears with your old material you even managed to kill off the saints board, here's an idea, why don't you try and re invent yourself again, at least it will give us something to work out between your first and second post who you are, the WarringtonWolve 69 isn't working for you I'm afraid
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"The only reason I visit the sin bin these days is to read SP’s daily beat down on chissitt. It’s hilarious'"
How American is that! .......add in Yanks just don't have a sense of humour.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Oh dear Stephie nothing alters same old same old, 1/10, 0/10 for content, 0/10 for effort, and 1/10 for predictability
The only reason your on the sin bin is it's the only board your not banned on, apart from the VT where everybody is bored to tears with your old material you even managed to kill off the saints board, here's an idea, why don't you try and re invent yourself again, at least it will give us something to work out between your first and second post who you are, the WarringtonWolve 69 isn't working for you I'm afraid
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Dude. Just because SP has embarrassed you for the 60th time, there is no reason to throw a hissy fit at me lmao
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Labour mayor of Liverpool suspended due to police investigation of alleged fraud. Unite Union under investigation as to building a conference Centre in Birmingham. Massive cost overrun.'"
If he's guilty of fraud, then the authorities should deal with him, end of.
The overspend argument could be really interesting, it may be wise not to look at HS2 or pretty much any major project, they rarely come in under budget ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If he's guilty of fraud, then the authorities should deal with him, end of.
The overspend argument could be really interesting, it may be wise not to look at HS2 or pretty much any major project, they rarely come in under budget ?'"
As a sub contractor I am well aware of cost overruns. I agree also that most major projects always finish up over budget. However it’s the placing of contracts on the conference that is under investigation. Also the companies involved are linked to certain trade Union leaders.
My point is dodgy deals aren’t exclusive to the Tory party.. Almost forgot Peter Mandelson ,seem to remember him mixed up in some dubious loans.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"As a sub contractor I am well aware of cost overruns. I agree also that most major projects always finish up over budget. However it’s the placing of contracts on the conference Centre that is under investigation. Also the companies involved are linked to certain trade Union leaders.
My point is dodgy deals aren’t exclusive to the Tory party.. Almost forgot Peter Mandelson ,seem to remember him mixed up in some dubious loans.'"
It's an interesting one.
NOBODY should be above the law and if there are underhand deals or "dodgy" favouritism going on then, those involved should be brought to account.
Sadly, this doesn't seem to apply if you are part of the current government or their friends and family.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Dude. Just because SP has embarrassed you for the 60th time, there is no reason to throw a hissy fit at me lmao'"
Who is me?
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"As a sub contractor I am well aware of cost overruns. I agree also that most major projects always finish up over budget. However it’s the placing of contracts on the conference Centre that is under investigation. Also the companies involved are linked to certain trade Union leaders.
My point is dodgy deals aren’t exclusive to the Tory party.. Almost forgot Peter Mandelson ,seem to remember him mixed up in some dubious loans.'"
Mandelson wasn't taking money from a donor. And he resigned.
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| And now there's talk for a £2k pay rise for MP's.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"And now there's talk for a £2k pay rise for MP's.'"
It probably won’t be a popular opinion, but if it was accompanied by better policed expenses system, I’d be okay with more than that. That’s probably only inflation.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Mandelson wasn't taking money from a donor. And he resigned.'"
As per normal you misread my posting. Under no circumstances am I defending the Tory government, they are a pretty shabby bunch. Mandelson in fact resigned on 2 occasions, then obviously went on to make a fortune in the EU. Likewise with Blair the warmongering specimen. I am merely making the obvious point that the tories haven’t got exclusive rights to sleaze .
Any thoughts on Ian Lavery mp ? . I won’t venture down the road of how many labour politicians seem to end up the wrong side of the law. Step forward Claudia Webb and take a bow. Anyway I thought you would be rejoicing all this debacle should lead to a labour victory at the next election .
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"As per normal you misread my posting. Under no circumstances am I defending the Tory government, they are a pretty shabby bunch. Mandelson in fact resigned on 2 occasions, then obviously went on to make a fortune in the EU. Likewise with Blair the warmongering specimen. I am merely making the obvious point that the tories haven’t got exclusive rights to sleaze .
Any thoughts on Ian Lavery mp ? . I won’t venture down the road of how many labour politicians seem to end up the wrong side of the law. Step forward Claudia Webb and take a bow. Anyway I thought you would be rejoicing all this debacle should lead to a labour victory at the next election .'"
Labour are less bad, a lot, lot less bad, than the Tories. But it's hardly a reason for celebration.
It will just be relief at getting this increasingly authoritarian, culture-war obsessed, lying and corrupt lot out.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Labour are less bad, a lot, lot less bad, than the Tories. But it's hardly a reason for celebration.
It will just be relief at getting this increasingly authoritarian, culture-war obsessed, lying and corrupt lot out.'"
Good grief I am in total shock, I actually agree with you.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It probably won’t be a popular opinion, but if it was accompanied by better policed expenses system, I’d be okay with more than that. That’s probably only inflation.'"
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Ultimately, the MP's are public servants and broadly speaking, they should receive the same level of pay increase as the rest of the public sector.
I find it ridiculous that they have their own "independent" body which recommends their pay increases but, they can then issue a public sector pay freeze.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Good grief I am in total shock, I actually agree with you.'"
[size=50So do I but don't tell him.[/size
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| The Tory Sleaze knows no bounds,
With Matt Hancock caught fondling another mans wife’s , Lyin Boris caught peeping Toming up Angela Rayners skirt, and now Neil Parish caught pleasuring himself ogling porn movies on the Tory benches.
What a load of low life scummiest
Great advert for the youth of the country
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