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| Quote ="McLaren_Field" they were offered the use of Keilder Forest and its real life 1900 foot summit and fifty or so kilometres of forest route, already built and ready and waiting for an Olympic event - or indeed any course in Wales or the Lake District, or the Peak District.'"
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"They were also offered the world class course at Ben Nevis.'"
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| Quote ="rover49"All the 'wonderful news for 'Britain' didn't last long did it.'"
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| Quote ="rover49"All the 'wonderful news for 'Britain' didn't last long did it.'"
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"There are definitely negatives as well as positives but one of the positives that small businesses may well be overlooking is the increased business that they may well get after the Olympics have been and gone, with the increased foot-fall to the venue and an increase in residents.'"
One of the fears is the decreased footfall in areas that are not slap bang in the middle of the Olympic area – but will still be impacted by increased parking limits and some of the road restrictions mentioned previously. An extraordinary amount of the whole borough of Hackney is going to be affected by such things – even though it's nowhere near the Olympic site and won't, for instance, feel the impact of the subsequent increase in residents. |
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Is any of this Olympics thingy going to be on TV? if so, I might not actually pay anything or go anywhere, but open a beer and put my feet up.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Is any of this Olympics thingy going to be on TV? if so, I might not actually pay anything or go anywhere, but open a beer and put my feet up.'"
I believe the Beeb announced they they are showing every single minute of every Olympic sport via 24 HD channels on the red button so the best place to watch the games really does seem to be on the sofa! |
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| Quote ="Scouse Pie2" so the best place to watch the games really does seem to be on the sofa!'"
You could apply that argument to any televised sporting event. The Grand Final, the Challenge Cup Final, any regular round of SL when your team is on the telly. Hopefully I'll be able to watch the next several Olympic Games on the box, this time it will be LIVE! |
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| Quote ="Scouse Pie2"I believe the Beeb announced they they are showing every single minute of every Olympic sport via 24 HD channels on the red button so the best place to watch the games really does seem to be on the sofa!'"
The Beeb is pretty good at televising athletics ... and if Michael Johnson is still on the commentary team, you'll get some real no-nonsense insight.
On the other hand, the Beeb have sometimes dropped John Inverdale into athletics coverage, I really don't know why, because he adds feck all to the proceedings, indeed he badly detracts from the presentation with his utterly stupid questions and ruggerbugger attitude. |
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I used to love watching the olympics, when it was contested by amateurs who contested events based on speed, strength and enjurability. Now it has become a money making regime, and has lost all of its original purpose.
This London olympics just stinks of greed and commercialism, and is not for the country at all. I for 1 have no interest in it, as it would seem, neither do 2/3rds of the country.
How many events are actually being staged away from the south?
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I'm really pleased for London and how they got the Olympics but up North i couldn't really give one. The most ill watch of it is the Cycling, Kayaking and the Usain Bolt roadshow.
The biggest winners in the whole Olympics are Black cab drivers in London. Notch that meter up to 11 and watch the tourists roll in!
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| Quote ="Live Wired"This London olympics just stinks of greed and commercialism, and is not for the country at all. I for 1 have no interest in it, as it would seem, neither do 2/3rds of the country.
How many events are actually being staged away from the south?'"
You're aware that the Olympics are awarded to a city rather than a country, right?
The football events are reasonably widely spread. The others, as you'd expect, are clustered as close to the city that was awarded the event as possible. Just like pretty much every other Olympics. |
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| Quote ="Kosh"You're aware that the Olympics are awarded to a city rather than a country, right?
The football events are reasonably widely spread. The others, as you'd expect, are clustered as close to the city that was awarded the event as possible. Just like pretty much every other Olympics.'"
Yes, I am aware of that, but, all I keep hearing from the pluggers is, " It will benefit the whole country", which, it obviously will not. And what the hell has football got to do with being an olympic sport? |
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Actually it might well benefit the whole country. The economics of Olympics are complex and there's a significant contribution just from extra tourism. Not everyone who visits the UK for the Olympics will spend their entire time in or around London and the South.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"I used to love watching the olympics, when it was contested by amateurs ...'"
Did you also only enjoy rugger when played by amateurs? |
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| Quote ="Ande"I'm really pleased for London and how they got the Olympics but up North i couldn't really give one. The most ill watch of it is the Cycling, Kayaking and the Usain Bolt roadshow.
The biggest winners in the whole Olympics are Black cab drivers in London. Notch that meter up to 11 and watch the tourists roll in!'"
Since black cabs will not be allowed within a mile of the venues, that's debatable. Most of the ones I've talked to in recent months are dreading it, for all the reasons mentioned previously – and many are simply intending to take their holidays then. |
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| Quote ="Live Wired"Yes, I am aware of that, but, all I keep hearing from the pluggers is, " It will benefit the whole country"'"
Strange, Glasgow, Cumbernauld, Sheffield, Leeds, Weymouth, Manchester, Newcastle and Southampton (and those are only the ones I know of) are all hosting training camps and team facilities before and during both the events. Places are benefiting not just because they are hosting sports you know. |
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Live Wired wrote:I used to love watching the olympics, when it was contested by amateurs ...
Did you also only enjoy rugger when played by amateurs?
I enjoy RL at all levels from schoolgirls to Sl standard.
Strange, Glasgow, Cumbernauld, Sheffield, Leeds, Weymouth, Manchester, Newcastle and Southampton (and those are only the ones I know of) are all hosting training camps and team facilities before and during both the events. Places are benefiting not just because they are hosting sports you know.
Training centres, but no events? Wow. So wheres the benefit for those of us outside of the home counties? The 1966 Brazilian World Cup team stayed at the Lymm hotel in Warrington, certainly did'nt boost industrial output in Warrington.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Actually it might well benefit the whole country. The economics of Olympics are complex and there's a significant contribution just from extra tourism. Not everyone who visits the UK for the Olympics will spend their entire time in or around London and the South.
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One of our major clients has just spent several years encamped in London working on Wembley Stadium and now the Olympic Park, so they have benefited enormously.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"... I enjoy RL at all levels from schoolgirls to Sl standard.
Strange, Glasgow, Cumbernauld, Sheffield, Leeds, Weymouth, Manchester, Newcastle and Southampton (and those are only the ones I know of) are all hosting training camps and team facilities before and during both the events. Places are benefiting not just because they are hosting sports you know.
Training centres, but no events? Wow. So wheres the benefit for those of us outside of the home counties? The 1966 Brazilian World Cup team stayed at the Lymm hotel in Warrington, certainly did'nt boost industrial output in Warrington.'"
Let's cut the waffle – and noting that you either haven't taken on board or understood the comments about tourism etc – and get back to your original point, shall we?
You claimed that you used to like the Olympics – when the events were contested by amateurs. So do you extend that to rugby and, if not, why not? If you're so fond of the amateur ethos (and disregarding the hypocrisy involved in it for years and in far more than one sport) then why do you follow a sport that has been openly professional since it began? |
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Quote ="Live Wired"I used to love watching the olympics, when it was contested by amateurs who contested events based on speed, strength and enjurability. Now it has become a money making regime, and has lost all of its original purpose...'"
Blimey, how old are you?
Athletes started being allowed to have trust funds (esssentially deferred payment) in the early 1970's.
The famous miler Derek Ibbotson (remember him?) is on record as saying that he'd tell the organisers (ahead of the race meeting) what prize he'd like if (and usually when) he won ... e.g. if he and his wife needed a new fridge, he'd request a fridge. This was commonplace, indeed "normal" ... but he and plenty of other top athletes were, effectively, being paid in kind ... but were nonetheless still regarded as "amateurs".
I recommend a book entitled [iThe Ghost Runner[/i to see some of the ridiculous ideas about what constitutes an "amateur" ... whilst Ibbotson and many many others were allowed expensive "prizes", long distance runner John Tarrant was never allowed to participate in international events because he had received £17 for boxing whilst a teenager (this was from 8 winning bouts, his bus fares came to more than that, not exactly what I would call professional) .
Here's a brief precis ...
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 05959.html
I'm not blaming Ibbotson or any of the others, it was the committee men who were the total hypocrites, whilst lining their own pockets thank you very much. |
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Quote ="Live Wired"I used to love watching the olympics, when it was contested by amateurs who contested events based on speed, strength and enjurability. Now it has become a money making regime, and has lost all of its original purpose...'"
Blimey, how old are you?
Athletes started being allowed to have trust funds (esssentially deferred payment) in the early 1970's.
The famous miler Derek Ibbotson (remember him?) is on record as saying that he'd tell the organisers (ahead of the race meeting) what prize he'd like if (and usually when) he won ... e.g. if he and his wife needed a new fridge, he'd request a fridge. This was commonplace, indeed "normal" ... but he and plenty of other top athletes were, effectively, being paid in kind ... but were nonetheless still regarded as "amateurs".
I recommend a book entitled [iThe Ghost Runner[/i to see some of the ridiculous ideas about what constitutes an "amateur" ... whilst Ibbotson and many many others were allowed expensive "prizes", long distance runner John Tarrant was never allowed to participate in international events because he had received £17 for boxing whilst a teenager (this was from 8 winning bouts, his bus fares came to more than that, not exactly what I would call professional) .
Here's a brief precis ...
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 05959.html
I'm not blaming Ibbotson or any of the others, it was the committee men who were the total hypocrites, whilst lining their own pockets thank you very much. | |
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| Quote ="Mintball"... do you follow a sport that has been openly professional since it began?'"
Steady girl, steady.
When the Northern Union was formed, the rules were that only compensation for broken time could be paid.
Plus, amateur rugby league allowed no payment at all.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"Training centres, but no events? Wow. So wheres the benefit for those of us outside of the home counties? The 1966 Brazilian World Cup team stayed at the Lymm hotel in Warrington, certainly did'nt boost industrial output in Warrington.'"
Mouths to feed, hotels to sleep in, tracks, pools and gyms to hire too, many areas will benefit as a direct result of the Olympics most outside the home counties. In case you haven't understood, the games are awarded to a city, that city is London, the organisers have to keep the majority of events close to the main stadium.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Steady girl, steady.
When the Northern Union was formed, the rules were that only compensation for broken time could be paid.
Plus, amateur rugby league allowed no payment at all.
So, not a professional sport, as an entity, even if some in it were receiving payment.'"
1895 and all that.  |
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I was nearly in the Olympics, had trials for Rowing and Canoeing in 2007 to find raw talent who could be fast tracked to compete at London 2012, out of 3500 I got to the final 40 of Rowing and final 12 of Canoeing, gutted.
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