Both parties want a levelling of wealth but their methodology is quite different. Labour want to level down, the Tories want to level up. These are not difficult concepts to grasp.

Nor was the geocentric model.

Right, that doesn’t really justify a mic drop - but I need another break from this. See y’all in a week or so good buddies.

Look - over there! A straw man!

Look over here - a human incapable of thinking for himself!!

If your "thinking for yourself" takes you as far as simplistically saying, "Labour want to level down" then I'm cool with being anything you're not.

A tad childish ,dont you think

I'll bow to your knowledge on that subject.

I appreciate rationale thought is beyond your capability but can you name a socialist country where the average wealth of the citizens approaches anything that of a capitalist country? The only way Socialism works is the centre controls everything and dishes out pocket money to its citizens. How do you grow that type of economy to the betterment of everyone, where is the competition and the need to develop - I mean in reality not in theory. At least in a capitalist economy the idea is encourage innovation and growth. Yes to much will end up in a few hands that is unavoidable but over time things will improve - has the average standard of living increased or decreased over the last 30 years and if we agree it has has it improved faster than in say Russia, many of the Socialist regimes in Africa - how about Cuba or Venezuela?

Britain is a socialist country.

But yes, as pretty much everyone knows, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Germany etc are prime examples who have somewhat more socialistic policies as part of their mixed economy than we do. For some reason you'd rather choose a bunch of tinpot dictatorships or wannabe dictatorships as if that was what any party other than the Conservatives were offering.

It's such a dumb argument - paying a bit more in taxes for better public services will only take us back to the levels of taxation in the 1980s. It might cause you or Scrooge McDuck immense anguish but it isn't going to turn us into a failed state. Plenty of other things will do that first.

With inflation rising, which would lead to higher interest rates, we could be on our way to the double whammy of a bust economy and significantly higher costs on our "world beating" national debt.

I absolutely agree with your comment about "some" paying a little more in tax.

It's quite incredible that we laud the celebrities and the better off, who hide their income overseas to avoid paying their share of tax.
They should be called out in just the same way as the red top papers call out "benefit cheats" etc

Jesus where were you when Rooney,Jimmy Carr and a load more got called out ,you really do spout crap

I suppose you've got hundreds of books ,some authored by y

ou on your book shelfs aswell

Oh hello. No, I'm just a maritime author, not a political one.
Although, that said, I do have a degree in politics, for what it's worth.

Says the font of all knowledge



I take it that you are happy for the wealthier members of society to dodge their taxes, whilst fining pensioners who dont have a TV license.

If you are seriously suggesting that the rich and famous, with the notable exception of Denise Coates, pay their full whack, I'll show my backside in Wakey Bullring



Btw, I'm not Jesus

Where have I said it's fair that the rich use tax avoidance schemes ,stop making things up you lgomper

Again I will ask the question,where have I posted that it's fair that the rich use tax avoidance schemes

I hope Ryan Reynolds says this in Deadpool 3.

Yes stop calling him Jesus he is just a naughty boy.

He is a naughty boy ,a lying naughty boy

Are you referring to Boris because it is quite an accurate description.

Lying ??

Please answer my question a few posts above ,many thanks Jonathan

Well it's a natural position.
If you are so utterly against socialist ideals, you must be part of the selfish, self serving brigade.
You know, the type who never wanted the NHS and would rather walk over someone than help them.

Capaitalism = Selfish
Socialism = Caring

They're not difficult concepts

And the whole point of a progressive taxation system is that those with lease pay less and those with most, pay more or, in the UK, those with most, hide their cash overseas, including many of our politicians, former Prime Ministers etc.

So you're not denying lying then ,