Get a grip please.

I don't think its me thats lost the grip, you need to look a lot closer to the Tories for that.

Nice to know what you think of the disabled of this country, shows you for what you are.

Yes everyone who voted for the tories must hate diabled people. Like I said, get a grip, you ae hysterical.

I have every right to be "hysterical" after what the Tories are doing. I will lose all my income in September because Mr Cameron doesn't think I am ill anymore. Cancer patients can only be on Contributory ESA for one year, children born disabled will not be able to claim ESA when they reach 18. Now today we find out we will have to stack shelves at Tescos for nothing but our benefit. Just a thought but will disabled peoples carers be working stacking shelves along side their patients too?

Again, I'm not the one whose "lost" the grip. You voted for them, you reap what you sow.

and why do you think they have to make cuts....go on take a wild guess...

Is that my fault ... go on take a guess given that I'm neither a banker or Gordon Brown
and is that a reason to take ALL my income from me?

Have the rules affecting your benefits changed since the change of government?

Quote ="Ajw71"Have the rules affecting your benefits changed since the change of government?'" Yes, drastically. They have overhauled the descriptors for ESA & DLA making them loaded questions. I really think you should read up on ESA & DLA/PIP before you make any further comments. I don't usually quote the DM but this is a brilliant article today and sums it up rather well. www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... opped.html

Quote ="Ajw71"Have the rules affecting your benefits changed since the change of government?'" Yes, drastically. They have overhauled the descriptors for ESA & DLA making them loaded questions. I really think you should read up on ESA & DLA/PIP before you make any further comments. I don't usually quote the DM but this is a brilliant article today and sums it up rather well. www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... opped.html

Do you not bother reading anything apart from tory bull[is[/ihit?

Quote ="Hull White Star" I don't usually quote the DM but this is a brilliant article today and sums it up rather well. www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... opped.html'" It is very good, as is this ... [urlhttp://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/02/17/why-david-cameron-owes-unemployed-single-mothers-an-apology/[/url Just to summarise the research that Cameron is basing his targeting of "problem families" at, that is not families who have problems, but families who cause most of society's ills, families who, in a speech, he describes as "Family's from Hell" and who he considers are responsible for "Drug addiction. Alcohol abuse. Crime. A culture of disruption and irresponsibility" Read this list... a) no parent in work b) poor quality housing, c) no parent with qualifications, d) mother with mental health problems e) one parent with longstanding disability/illness f) family has low income, g) Family cannot afford some food/clothing items Perm any five from seven and you are in the cross hairs of Camerons gun sights and he wants you targeting and punishing. Its that easy, tick any five boxes and you are scum. These are supposed to be intelligent people who are leading our country, I cannot believe that they themselves believe this stuff, in which case their spoon feeding of such cr@p to us summarises what they think we are - we're stupid.

Quote ="Hull White Star" I don't usually quote the DM but this is a brilliant article today and sums it up rather well. www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... opped.html'" It is very good, as is this ... [urlhttp://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/02/17/why-david-cameron-owes-unemployed-single-mothers-an-apology/[/url Just to summarise the research that Cameron is basing his targeting of "problem families" at, that is not families who have problems, but families who cause most of society's ills, families who, in a speech, he describes as "Family's from Hell" and who he considers are responsible for "Drug addiction. Alcohol abuse. Crime. A culture of disruption and irresponsibility" Read this list... a) no parent in work b) poor quality housing, c) no parent with qualifications, d) mother with mental health problems e) one parent with longstanding disability/illness f) family has low income, g) Family cannot afford some food/clothing items Perm any five from seven and you are in the cross hairs of Camerons gun sights and he wants you targeting and punishing. Its that easy, tick any five boxes and you are scum. These are supposed to be intelligent people who are leading our country, I cannot believe that they themselves believe this stuff, in which case their spoon feeding of such cr@p to us summarises what they think we are - we're stupid.

I reckon there are days when she'd love to, unfortunately her physical condition often prevents such a simple act of gripping anything.

Are you really such a heartless c**t as you'd like everyone to believe?

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Language Timothy...

I'm sorry but because she has a disability that doesn't mean I have to agree with every word she says.

I have never said anything about her disability so why resort to personal abuse?

It's simple: anyone who thinks that the conservative government is doing a wonderful job in hitting the most vulnerable in our society the hardest, is a c[iu[/int, pure & simple.

Since when?

Don't confuse education with intelligence. This cabinet is the thickest we've had in decades.

You can disagree with me all you like but its not my policies, its the governements. I've told you what is happening. They even used Financial Privilege to overturn the House Of Lords' Ammendments to ESA. Granted, the HoL didn't totally disregard ESA but they put in some sensible Ammendments that would "soften the blow" so to speak but Grayling just steam rollered that.

If you had bothered to read all of my posts, I have posted facts & figures from DWP's own documents, posted articles from disability groups detailing what the government are doing and even posted questions from my ESA50 form.

If you disagree with what I'm saying, then do some research yourself on ESA & DLA/PIP and come back with some sensible comments.

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2102484/This-wartime-Nazi-Germany-Camerons-attacks-vulnerable-needy-stopped.htmlThe Daily Wail, Nazis and Cameron[/url

My gob is well and truly smacked.

Come on Ajw71, surely this cannot be right? The mouthpiece of every right-thinking (only in ther deluded imaginations) tory, turning on your heroes? Anything to say?

It looks like DWP's Workfare scheme may be in a spot of bother.

[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/employers-reject-jobs-scheme-thats-all-work-and-no-pay-7079777.htmlEmployers reject jobs scheme that's all work and no pay[/url

It seems that public pressure and bad publicity can make a difference, if not to Government policy but at least to the attitudes of the targeted employers.

An ultimatum ?

"Keep sending us more free workers to replace the ones we have to pay wages to but put a bit of icing on the cake so the public swallow it easier".


Bad news follows this governments policies around like a piece of toilet paper stuck to a heel and like a piece of toilet paper stuck to a heel, they can't see it.

Graylings name calling of "job snobs" is quite frankly disgusting and appalling. I would love to stack shelves/operate a till in Tesco's (not for nowt though). I loved working for Grandways in my student days. Unfortunatley my hands wouldn't let me lift any goods to the shelves or scan through tills as my wrists and fingers are tissue damaged. He is either too thick to realise there are disabled people who are phsically incapable of doing the work or he doesn't care. I know which my money's on.

No no no. You just don't get it. You're supposed to lose your benefits and be happy about it. You just need to get a grip and get yourself to work. Then with all the money saved that you've been unnecessarily draining from hard-working taxpayers like Ajw you can hire a carer to look after you. Presumably a private one since the NHS is to be privatised and presumably this carer is on a decent wage with an expense account.

This is the real world, you just need to get a grip and calm down dear.

Oh yeah, I never looked at it that way

I see the Welfare Reform Bill is working then www.channel4.com/news/families-b ... s-minister Its not just families with kids either. When my ESA stops in September hubby will be better off giving up his job and going on benefits too. Its the passported benefits that would help us the most, not the actual cash every fortnight.

I see the Welfare Reform Bill is working then www.channel4.com/news/families-b ... s-minister Its not just families with kids either. When my ESA stops in September hubby will be better off giving up his job and going on benefits too. Its the passported benefits that would help us the most, not the actual cash every fortnight.

Quote ="Hull White Star"I see the Welfare Reform Bill is working then www.channel4.com/news/families-b ... s-minister Its not just families with kids either. When my ESA stops in September hubby will be better off giving up his job and going on benefits too. Its the passported benefits that would help us the most, not the actual cash every fortnight.'" And if anyone wanted proof that these cuts have nothing whatsoever to do with what the coalition claims (helping people back into work etc), but are entirely ideological ...

Quote ="Hull White Star"I see the Welfare Reform Bill is working then www.channel4.com/news/families-b ... s-minister Its not just families with kids either. When my ESA stops in September hubby will be better off giving up his job and going on benefits too. Its the passported benefits that would help us the most, not the actual cash every fortnight.'" And if anyone wanted proof that these cuts have nothing whatsoever to do with what the coalition claims (helping people back into work etc), but are entirely ideological ...

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17288762Remploy to close "loss-making" factories[/url (thanks for the link Minty)

Yet another "price worth paying"?

Close the factories, remove or reduce any subsidies to others and let those employed go onto benefits? Yeah sounds like a real plan.

Shortly after my old man was demobbed in 1946, the horrors of four years fighting in the Burmese jungle finally took their toll and he suffered an almost complete breakdown. Not fit enough to go back to work on the docks, he was eased back into it by spending some months at Remploy. They taught him basic DIY and caprentry skills but more importantly, they gave him the confidence to go back to driving his crane on Hull docks.

Now this bunch of shysting cockroaches want to remove yet another basic tenet of the post-war Welfare State by probably driving the final nail into Remploy's coffin. Thatcher made the first move by virtually privatising the organisation, now Cameron and his LibDem stooges are looking to finish the job and let the vulnerable wither where they lay.

Angry doesn't even begin to describe my mood.

[url=http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100142166/the-conservatives-will-lose-in-2015-thank-god/I can only dream[/url yet still worry about just how much irrepairable damage they can inflict in the next three years.

Its clear to most that Cameron is playing with very high stakes, as we used to say "s[ihi[/it or bust" - his plans have to be rushed through because the quicker he gets them in place the more chance he has of any of them actually starting to work (given benefit of doubt) before the next election, he now has no more then three years to bring down unemployment and ride the tide of poverty stricken disabled critics - not forgetting almost all of the NHS, etc, etc.

I hope that Labour are sitting on their hands just waiting for him to fall because they sure as hell aren't proving themselves to be a vicious opposition at the moment.