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| Interesting happenings today - I suppose that's OK in Leighgionaire's view!!
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Interesting happenings today - I suppose that's OK in Leighgionaire's view!!'"
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If you are talking about the four Israeli's murdered why would I think that is ok? I see it made headline news though. It was a terrible crime and the two Palestinian assailants were shot dead by the police. However the Israeli spokesman interviewed accused Palestinians of trying to cause terror in their capital. Excuse me? When did Jerusalem become Israel's capital?! The Israeli PM said 'severe measures' will be taken - the terrorists are both dead so who's the Israeli government going to punish for this crime? The reporter then said the homes of the killers will probably be demolished. So there you go, all the killers families will be collectively punished for the crime, just how Katie Hopkins and her ilk would like it.
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| Quote ="LeighGionaire"???
If you are talking about the four Israeli's murdered why would I think that is ok? I see it made headline news though. It was a terrible crime and the two Palestinian assailants were shot dead by the police. However the Israeli spokesman interviewed accused Palestinians of trying to cause terror in their capital. Excuse me? When did Jerusalem become Israel's capital?! The Israeli PM said 'severe measures' will be taken - the terrorists are both dead so who's the Israeli government going to punish for this crime? The reporter then said the homes of the killers will probably be demolished. So there you go, all the killers families will be collectively punished for the crime, just how Katie Hopkins and her ilk would like it.'"
Warsaw justice.
Plain and simple
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| Quote The reporter then said the homes of the killers will probably be demolished.'"
Should be easy to find, there aren't many homes left standing in Gaza
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Should be easy to find, there aren't many homes left standing in Gaza'"
East Jerusalem actually. Do try and keep up FA, or perhaps you're getting confused with Bradford's Town Centre?
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| Meanwhile the Jewish regime kills children every day.
It's got to the point in which no one can take any moral high ground, both sides are equally as culpable although the might of the Jews will eventually crush Palestine and it will become part of the wider Israel, all the countries around the world will say
"Oh please don't do that you naughty jewish people or we might do something" while doing nothing.
Hopkins...I'd rather an honest repugnant than a bland silent liar.
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| It'll be interesting to see what attention Dave Whelan's comments about Jews and the Chinese get.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"It'll be interesting to see what attention Dave Whelan's comments about Jews and the Chinese get.'"
He will be carted off and hung - all those precious Jews!!
We are moving to a society where no one can express a view on anything because it will offend somebody.
Whelan is a very experienced and successful businessman who is probably speaking from his own experience. Buying merchandise in China is probably a tougher proposition than buying it in Europe - so what? Country is going to the dogs
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"It'll be interesting to see what attention Dave Whelan's comments about Jews and the Chinese get.'"
He's been asked if he is a fit and proper person to run a football club.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"He will be carted off and hung - all those precious Jews!!
We are moving to a society where no one can express a view on anything because it will offend somebody.
Whelan is a very experienced and successful businessman who is probably speaking from his own experience. Buying merchandise in China is probably a tougher proposition than buying it in Europe - so what? Country is going to the dogs'"
So you think it's OK to promote the negative stereotype of "money-chasing Jews" or referring to the Chinese as "Chinks"?
The FA have Whelan's new manager under investigation, instead of simply employing him and keeping schtum, he goes on TV and, like you, can see no problem in Malcy MacKay's comments. Being a rich, successful businessman obviously doesn't confer common sense. Mind you, if he's so rich, he won't need the two sponsors who have already jumped ship
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| Quote ="cod'ead"So you think it's OK to promote the negative stereotype of "money-chasing Jews" or referring to the Chinese as "Chinks"?
The FA have Whelan's new manager under investigation, instead of simply employing him and keeping schtum, he goes on TV and, like you, can see no problem in Malcy MacKay's comments. Being a rich, successful businessman obviously doesn't confer common sense. Mind you, if he's so rich, he won't need the two sponsors who have already jumped ship'"
Well said cod'ead ![CLAP eusa_clap.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_clap.gif)
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| Quote ="cod'ead"So you think it's OK to promote the negative stereotype of "money-chasing Jews" or referring to the Chinese as "Chinks"?
The FA have Whelan's new manager under investigation, instead of simply employing him and keeping schtum, he goes on TV and, like you, can see no problem in Malcy MacKay's comments. Being a rich, successful businessman obviously doesn't confer common sense. Mind you, if he's so rich, he won't need the two sponsors who have already jumped ship'"
I don't offended when people describe Yorkshiremen as Scots with the generosity removed - what is the difference? I am sure some man of Yorkshire will be offended with the negative stereotype. Does that mean it should never be used? Where do you stop?
I am sure Whelan will not be unduly financially put out by the loss of shirt sponsor.
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| Simple trick to it really, imagine the person you want to insult is a white Londoner, an agnostic, dressed in a business suit, and a man, then insult them based on their actual behaviour. I wouldn't have a problem with that. I hate cockney w********rs anyway. Oops.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Well said cod'ead
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Another tree hugger
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Another tree hugger'"
Grow up.
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| If Whelan has said a similar thing about Muslims or Arabs I doubt there would be as much furore about his comments.
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| Hang on, so whenever we fancy a takeaway and one of us says, "fancy a chinky", we're being racist?
Whodathunkit.
Maybe I should choose to take offence a bit more.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Grow up.'"
Grow some - its tough out there people on the whole don't care about this stuff - just the tree huggers like you.
Its a tiny minority that cry foul, why do you feel the need to defend them are all these Chinese so meek they cannot defend themselves?
Its OK for IS to say what they do about the West but its not OK to call some Chinese Chinks - you need a reality check
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| Quote ="LeighGionaire"If Whelan has said a similar thing about Muslims or Arabs I doubt there would be as much furore about his comments.'"
There would have been significantly more uproar - the race card would have been well and truly out.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Hang on, so whenever we fancy a takeaway and one of us says, "fancy a chinky", we're being racist?
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No, because that's common slang for food. But if you are in a brothel.....
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Grow some - its tough out there people on the whole don't care about this stuff - just the tree huggers like you.
Its a tiny minority that cry foul, why do you feel the need to defend them are all these Chinese so meek they cannot defend themselves?
Its OK for IS to say what they do about the West but its not OK to call some Chinese Chinks - you need a reality check'"
What a pathetic argument you put up. It's a shame you have to resort to insults isn't it just because I agreed with cod'ead. So you would gladly called Chinese people Chinks ? What about people from Pakistan, Israel, Saudi Arabia - would you call them the nicknames that there are for them and feel that it's quite acceptable ?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Hang on, so whenever we fancy a takeaway and one of us says, "fancy a chinky", we're being racist?
Whodathunkit.
Maybe I should choose to take offence a bit more.'"
How difficult is it to say "chinese"?
Same number of syllables
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Grow some - its tough out there people on the whole don't care about this stuff - just the tree huggers like you.
Its a tiny minority that cry foul, why do you feel the need to defend them are all these Chinese so meek they cannot defend themselves?
Its OK for IS to say what they do about the West but its not OK to call some Chinese Chinks - you need a reality check'"
Looks like it's not just a couple of "tree-huggers" on here who find Whelan's remarks offensive:
[iThe Chinese community leader Jenny Wong also told the Guardian that the Wigan owner was condoning racism while the anti-discrimination group Kick It Out questioned whether he was “a fit and proper person who should be running a professional football club”.
Vincent Tan, the Cardiff City owner who sacked Mackay last year, accused Whelan of being a racist. “This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager,” Tan told BBC Sport. “I hope that stops at two racists in Wigan, not snowballing to 2,000 or 20,000 racists in Wigan. I think he insulted the dignity of all Jewish people. I think he insulted the dignity of Chinese.”
The Board of Deputies of British Jews said the apology was not good enough. “Whelan’s bigoted and racist comments about Jews are outrageous and offensive, and bring the club and the game in to disrepute,” the board’s vice-president Jonathan Arkush said on Friday. “His half-hearted apology does not go far enough. You cannot insult a whole group of people, and then say: ‘I would never insult them,’ and hope that’s OK.”[/i
Wigan lies very close to two of the biggest Chinese communities in the UK, I doubt he'd be welcome in any "Chinky" in either Manchester or Liverpool
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Looks like it's not just a couple of "tree-huggers" on here who find Whelan's remarks offensive:
[iThe Chinese community leader Jenny Wong also told the Guardian that the Wigan owner was condoning racism while the anti-discrimination group Kick It Out questioned whether he was “a fit and proper person who should be running a professional football club”.
Vincent Tan, the Cardiff City owner who sacked Mackay last year, accused Whelan of being a racist. “This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager,” Tan told BBC Sport. “I hope that stops at two racists in Wigan, not snowballing to 2,000 or 20,000 racists in Wigan. I think he insulted the dignity of all Jewish people. I think he insulted the dignity of Chinese.”
The Board of Deputies of British Jews said the apology was not good enough. “Whelan’s bigoted and racist comments about Jews are outrageous and offensive, and bring the club and the game in to disrepute,” the board’s vice-president Jonathan Arkush said on Friday. “His half-hearted apology does not go far enough. You cannot insult a whole group of people, and then say: ‘I would never insult them,’ and hope that’s OK.”[/i
Wigan lies very close to two of the biggest Chinese communities in the UK, I doubt he'd be welcome in any "Chinky" in either Manchester or Liverpool'"
This is exactly my point - no matter what you say if you look hard enough ou will find somebody somewhere who is offended. Tan and Mackay have history so what is Tan going to say? Feeling persecuted is in the Jewish DNA they will complain if someone doesn't understand their superiority
I doubt Dave Whelan is stressed about where his next fried rice is coming from!!
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