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Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="Dally"Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).'" But yet another part of Hull is at 13.09.
Which is rather funny when YOU have used the word 'perspective' eh!
Infact that 'small area' you found is over double anywhere alse in Hull and infact most of the city is in single figures.
So no so much of 'Just a small part' and more like the 'only part'.
But you already knew this didn't you.
Maybe I will use you logic and state that hull is a great place to live due to the fact that just a small part of Hull is at 3.85?
Or would that not suit your agenda?'"
You're wasting your time. Dally decides what his opinion is, then tries to manipulate the data to suit his agenda. Or omits to present any data whatsoever.
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Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="Dally"Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).'" But yet another part of Hull is at 13.09.
Which is rather funny when YOU have used the word 'perspective' eh!
Infact that 'small area' you found is over double anywhere alse in Hull and infact most of the city is in single figures.
So no so much of 'Just a small part' and more like the 'only part'.
But you already knew this didn't you.
Maybe I will use you logic and state that hull is a great place to live due to the fact that just a small part of Hull is at 3.85?
Or would that not suit your agenda?'"
You're wasting your time. Dally decides what his opinion is, then tries to manipulate the data to suit his agenda. Or omits to present any data whatsoever.
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| Quote ="Dally"Of course, it'll vary. But I've tried Hackney, Brixton, several renowned areas of Liverpool, etc and central Hull has a rate several TIMES higher than all. Why? I'll try Salford next.'" Woah dont back pedal to much you may break you bike.
I mean let us not forget that you failed to mention you were talking about 'Central Hull' as you stated 'Just a small part'.
Maybe if you had been more clear in clarifiying your agenda folks may not be able to make you look a chump so easily.
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| Quote ="Dally"Salford, rate less than a third of Hull's.
I'll leave it to you to see if you can find somewhere with a higher rate.
Found one for you - I just thought of other cess-pits I'd visited and Cardiff came up trumps! not in England though.'" You do realise how much of a fool you sound right?
Again You seem to not understand your own arguement as you have stated 'Hull's' that isn't true as I have already stated.
Still At least it passes you some time.
Perhaps you could apply for a job in government after all they seem to be unable to make themselves look like anything but gibbering idiots too.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Woah dont back pedal to much you may break you bike.
I mean let us not forget that you failed to mention you were talking about 'Central Hull' as you stated 'Just a small part'.
Maybe if you had been more clear in clarifiying your agenda folks may not be able to make you look a chump so easily.'"
You are a prize one! You asked me to back up my assertion that Hull seemed to have a high crime rate. So I searched Hull - not surprisingly Central Hull came up. I am not familiar with the good / bad areas of Hull, so it's entirely reasonable. Hackney will probably have a population larger than Hull's and is a deprived inner city borough. I also searches areas like Birkenhead, Kirkby, Toxteth and Bootle - none came close to Hull.
Again, I ask - why?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You're wasting your time. Dally decides what his opinion is, then tries to manipulate the data to suit his agenda. Or omits to present any data whatsoever.'" True but when a jumped up little twerp starts spouting rubbish I'm gunna call him on it.
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| Having refined my searches I note that Central Leeds has more than twice the crime rate of Hull! must be a Yorkshire thing.
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| Quote ="Dally"You are a prize one! You asked me to back up my assertion that Hull seemed to have a high crime rate. So I searched Hull - not surprisingly Central Hull came up. I am not familiar with the good / bad areas of Hull, so it's entirely reasonable. Hackney will probably have a population larger than Hull's and is a deprived inner city borough. I also searches areas like Birkenhead, Kirkby, Toxteth and Bootle - none came close to Hull.
Again, I ask - why?'" I don't know why.
But when you look at the rest of the data it seems strange that only one area of the city is classed as red.
I mean if Hull was as bad as you suggested with 'Fill the servers up' line surely more than one area would be red?.
Surely?
But wait no where else in Hull is it red, Infact those that live in the city will tell you that the Greenwood (I was brought up on OPE) and Bransholme wards are by far and away the worst but guess what............Thats right they are both yellow.
Given all that info it is totally possible that there are other factors in play here but sorry I forgot you have an agenda to massage I mean why else would you have started this thread.
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| Quote ="Dally"Having refined my searches I note that Central Leeds has more than twice the crime rate of Hull! must be a Yorkshire thing.'" So in other words you were infact talking garbage.
Thanks for the clarification.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So in other words you were infact talking garbage.
Thanks for the clarification.'"
Why? Still a higher rate than in many bigger impoverished boroughs.
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| Quote ="Dally"Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So in other words you were infact talking garbage.
Thanks for the clarification.'"
Why? Still a higher rate than in many bigger impoverished boroughs.'"
Over one month in one area of the city. This is so far from 'proof' of your assertion that you're surpassing even your own standards in stupidity by suggesting it.
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| Quote ="Dally"Why? Still a higher rate than in many bigger impoverished boroughs.'" Maybe you should ask the good folks in Haggerston which is right next to Hackney as they seem to be struggling with a figure of 52.48?
Perhaps there is baby sacrifices in central London after all and you just missed it.
Anyone more of your flimflam you want me to rubbish?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Maybe you should ask the good folks in Haggerston which is right next to Hackney as they seem to be struggling with a figure of 52.48?
Perhaps there is baby sacrifices in central London after all and you just missed it.
Anyone more of your flimflam you want me to rubbish?'"
I think Mintball and tb lives in Haggerston. Not sure whether there is a correlation though.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"flimflam '"
Are you Boris Johnson?
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| Quote ="Dally"I think Mintball and tb lives in Haggerston. Not sure whether there is a correlation though.'" So now that you have been proved to be a one eyed idiot you are quickly trying to change the subject.
Didn't you say 'You are a prize one!' when you were trying and failing to berate me?
May I suggest in future that you think before jumping to foolish and incorrect assumptions as it will save you getting made to look very silly when someone with a functioning brain picks you apart.
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| Quote ="Dally"Are you Boris Johnson?'" Still desperate to change that subject eh!!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Over one month in one area of the city. This is so far from 'proof' of your assertion that you're surpassing even your own standards in stupidity by suggesting it.'" The funny thing is that this is twice I have made him look like a buffoon today.
I am still waiting for him to explain how Boris and his chums are going to survive by eating pound coins on another thread.
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| Well that's a surprise. Dally in talking shocker.
He can never find the stats to back up the guff he posts. It's either wrong, misleading or "been moved off-site".
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| [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8294418/Most-dangerous-neighbourhood-identified-by-crime-map.htmlOoh look, a Hull street appears in one table on worst crime spots[/url
The data may be over a year old but unless there's been a sudden upsurge in crime, it's probably pretty indicative. One street in Hull managed the dizzy heights of 5th in the burglary table. Still lagging behind Albert Road South, Watford (not a million miles from S'nalbans) on total crime though
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| There are parts of Hull that I would gladly relocate to, if I had enough money.
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| So, to summarise, Dally has managed to make himself look like a cock. Again.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"The funny thing is that this is twice I have made him look like a buffoon today.
I am still waiting for him to explain how Boris and his chums are going to survive by eating pound coins on another thread.'"
Same as this country has done for the last 100 years or so - by produce from elsewhere. Do your oranges, bananas, lemons, come from the North? Next time you go to Tesco look to see where most of the stuff is grown - even stuff that can grow here comes from Holland, Israel, etc, etc. Not the most observant being are we?
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| Quote ="Dally"Same as this country has done for the last 100 years or so - by produce from elsewhere. Do your oranges, bananas, lemons, come from the North? Next time you go to Tesco look to see where most of the stuff is grown - even stuff that can grow here comes from Holland, Israel, etc, etc. Not the most observant being are we?'"
Yeah I'm sure if they import everything all will go brilliantly.
I mean lettuce, cucumbers, most of the meat products they eat in the big smoke, tomatoes, carrots etc.
Like I said if the rest of the country pull their services to London in the same way as Boris is talking about pulling the money from the rest if the country the folks in London will bleat like buggery about how unfair it us that they are being picked on and are struggling to put food on their tables.
Only someone who is totally thick will struggle to understand this.
That is clearly where you come in!!!
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| Would have thought that even the thickest could see that economically unviable places would suffer more. If hand outs are taken away there will clearly be short term pain until people get up and do something positive about it.
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| Quote ="Dally"Would have thought that even the thickest could see that economically unviable places would suffer more. If hand outs are taken away there will clearly be short term pain until people get up and do something positive about it.'"
I shall discuss this on that thread this is about your idea that Hull is the worst place to live even though evidence has proven otherwise.
Still I won't hold my breath waiting for you to admit your mistakes as it takes a man to admit he is wrong.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Maybe you should ask the good folks in Haggerston which is right next to Hackney as they seem to be struggling with a figure of 52.48?
Perhaps there is baby sacrifices in central London after all and you just missed it.
Anyone more of your flimflam you want me to rubbish?'"
Haggerston is part of Hackney.
Mind, on the old crime thing, I looked out of my kitchen window a couple of weeks ago and realised that I could actually see the police tape around a crime scene just a few metres away.
Actually, there's no evidence that it was the scene of a crime - just where they fished the torso of Gemma McCluskie out of the canal.
They've found one her arms since, apparently.
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