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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"A lot appear to have voted based on the positivity they feel now with the vaccination rollout and the release of restrictions. They forget what came before it or the fact that the Conservatives have been in power for 11 years.
I actually think some do not believe Johnson’s Conservatives are the same Conservative party that proceeded him as leader.'"
Right now, there is very little that Labour can do to make ground on the Tories (or even hold the ground that they had).
There is eye watering spending going on and the vaccine appears to be successful, plus the promise of "levelling up".
I dont think that anyone can argue that the UK appears to be doing well with regards to covid and the spending / levelling up wont be an issue until someone decides that it's time to pay down the debt.
It is then, where the true colours will be seen.
Just who will take the biggest hit to their income or have to pay higher taxes and of course, then we have the "levelling up".
This was a clever line from Boris, giving the appearance of a brighter future but giving nothing whatsoever to make it happen.
Meanwhile, the UK's debt is growing at a faaster rate than the ice cap is melting.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
I don't think that anyone can argue that the UK appears to be doing well with regards to covid '" We're doing well with vaccine rollout. Our covid record overall though is abysmal, amongst the worst in developed nations.
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| The return of Inflation will be the catalyst for change.
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| Quote ="Willzay"No he doesn’t and no they don’t.'"
Yes he does and yes they do
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| Quote ="Willzay"Let’s also not forget the fact that Boris first and foremost is a homophobic racist. People keep voting for a party led by a “man” like that, and they say the UK isn’t institutionally racist.'"
We are one of the most tolerant nations on the Planet
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"We are one of the most gullible nations on the Planet'"
Couldn't resist.
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| Well ovavoo and King Street laughing emojis don't mean it ain't so. Yes there are racists in our country as in all nations. Doesn't mean the vast majority of the UK aren't tolerant and welcoming.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Couldn't resist.'"
Of course you couldn't
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| The one thing that is clear from the results is that the incumbent party have fared better in each country. It could be said that in Wales the Conservatives have made little impact. It is clear that each has benefited from the vaccination bounce. I guess the question is how long will it last for every incumbent.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"What do you think I’m in denial about?
Are you suggesting that Johnson is better than that and offers genuine hope for a better future?'"
I am no Johnson fan but compared to Starmer yes he does. No difficult to offer more than nothing?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I honestly don’t get it - he has something that I am completely blind to. And it is very hard to work out how to beat something you don’t understand!
It doesn’t seem to be a positive vote - nobody can straight-facedly say anything positive about him, but it doesn’t [ujust[/u seem to be a negative pooping in the pool or anti-Labour thing, either.
I’m clearly massively out of touch. I’ve tried - I’ve watched lots of Jeff Taylor videos on YouTube. I don’t want to just dismiss it as a national emotional and intellectual meltdown because that feels lazy. But I can’t come up with anything better. maybe it is like that dress from a few years ago that was blue and black, or white and gold. Maybe some people see Boris Johnson as talented, interesting and wise, and it is just another state of perception. But then, why does nobody ever say it?
It is almost funny.'"
Herein lies the issue that Labour have - the public are stupid - no wonder the left is such a shambles.
It started with Brexit i.e. we need keep voting until the public vote the we want them too because we are so much more intelligent and know what's best. Labour just sneer at everyone as if they are all idiots.
Whilst ever your look down at ordinary people in this way the greater the gap will become - Boris said he would honour the vote on Brexit and he did - you might not like the deal but we are no longer in the EU - that is tangible - all the virtue signalling and wokeness that the left put out is simply bonkers - most people aren't bothered. They believe their are two genders not a hundred etc.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Tells me to stop making stuff up.
Makes stuff up in pretty much the next sentence.
Well done old boy.'"
I would suggest you look back and we will see who is telling the truth - and we both know it isn't you
Now run along and get reading today's Politico playbook.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"I would suggest you look back and we will see who is telling the truth - and we both know it isn't you
Now run along and get reading today's Politico playbook.
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You made up stuff about me saying the UK "would not be able to survive outside the EU".
Now you are projecting something weird about some establishment news site?
Are you feeling OK?
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"You made up stuff about me saying the UK "would not be able to survive outside the EU".
Now you are projecting something weird about some establishment news site?
Are you feeling OK?'"
I'm fine batting of the likes of you is both easy and a pleasure - nobody has quote Politico on here apart from you - or are you deny that too?
Do you suffer from amnesia - or are you just forgetful when it suits you?
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"Herein lies the issue that Labour have - the public are stupid - no wonder the left is such a shambles.
It started with Brexit i.e. we need keep voting until the public vote the we want them too because we are so much more intelligent and know what's best. Labour just sneer at everyone as if they are all idiots.
Whilst ever your look down at ordinary people in this way the greater the gap will become - Boris said he would honour the vote on Brexit and he did - you might not like the deal but we are no longer in the EU - that is tangible - all the virtue signalling and wokeness that the left put out is simply bonkers - most people aren't bothered. They believe their are two genders not a hundred etc.'"
That I get. I’m not in denial about Labour’s failings. The social democratic-socialist coalition has cracked and the societal concerns of both wings are of limited interest to lots of voters.
The Tories have dealt with the threat from their right from UKIP and Farage by consuming it whole, while holding on to the centre right (for now).
The broad trends are easy to see. But then you got the absurdism of Johnson as Prime Minister.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"I'm fine batting of the likes of you is both easy and a pleasure - nobody has quote Politico on here apart from you - or are you deny that too?
Do you suffer from amnesia - or are you just forgetful when it suits you?'"
I have no recollection of "quoting" Politico on here but I suppose if you say so I may have linked to something.
I'm not entirely sure what point you're making though. And neither, I suspect, do you.
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| If these are the people Labour have to win back, good luck to them.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"If these are the people Labour have to win back, good luck to them.
[urlhttps://mobile.twitter.com/resophonick/status/1391288617449005058[/url'"
What are you implying? That labour can't rely on the morons that used to vote for them? You can't have it both ways.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"What are you implying? That labour can't rely on the morons that used to vote for them? You can't have it both ways.'"
The bloke has no idea about the differences between local and national government. He is pointing out police and hospital issues. Those decisions are not made at local level. The Tories have been in power for 11 years and presumably he's voted for them "for change"! The theory always trotted out is "Labour don't understand the working class". With blokes like him in the video is it any wonder? Do you understand him?
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"The bloke has no idea about the differences between local and national government. He is pointing out police and hospital issues. Those decisions are not made at local level. The Tories have been in power for 11 years and presumably he's voted for them "for change"! The theory always trotted out is "Labour don't understand the working class". With blokes like him in the video is it any wonder? Do you understand him?
It's like the sinking ship with three survivor's, one of whom is Boris Johnson, the other a normal bloke and the 3rd one an immigrant. Johnson looks at the available supplies, 30 hard tack biscuits and 5 bottles of water. Johnson takes 25 biscuits and 3 bottles of water and tells the normal bloke to get the rest before the immigrant gets them.
Think Cummings, when he was running the show understood the mentality and to a certain extent, so does Johnson.
Tories are bullet proof for a while yet.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"I would suggest you look back and we will see who is telling the truth - and we both know it isn't you
Now run along and get reading today's Politico playbook.
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And everyone knows it isn’t you Mr “ 1.8 million flu jabs” liar
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom" - or are you just forgetful when it suits you?'"
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"The bloke has no idea about the differences between local and national government. He is pointing out police and hospital issues. Those decisions are not made at local level. The Tories have been in power for 11 years and presumably he's voted for them "for change"! The theory always trotted out is "Labour don't understand the working class". With blokes like him in the video is it any wonder? Do you understand him?'"
But you said "win back" implying they uses to vote Labour. So it's OK if numbskulls vote for your party of choice?
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"If these are the people Labour have to win back, good luck to them.
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It’s a good job you can laugh
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"But you said "win back" implying they uses to vote Labour. So it's OK if numbskulls vote for your party of choice?'"
Labour need all the votes they can get at the moment. I'm guessing the guy has been a Labour voter all his life but now he can "think for himself" he votes Tory. The same Tories who have been in power for the last 11 years and are actually responsible for his grievances.
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