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| Quote ="Mild Rover"In the same way it does in the US, perhaps (i.e. not really). There are substantial demographic issues that any party would face, but yes I honestly believe it’d be better under an government that wants to make public provision for universal healthcare based on need and free at the point of delivery, as far as is going to be feasible.
But that is unlikely, innit? And in a few years those and a lot of other jobs seem likely to be lost to automation. That’s progress, but who shares in its benefits? Under the Tories my expectation is that a small number of people will benefit a great deal, with the outlook being bleaker for a much greater number.
It is massively disproportionately Tories. For example, among MPs who have worked as consultants in the last year, 30 are Conservatives, 1 is Labour and 1 is a Lib Dem. Even making allowances for there being more Tory MPs and their’s being the party in power, that is a big difference. Tbh, I don’t have a huge problem with second jobs per se. But they shouldn’t be selling access and influence.'"
Nice bit of goal post moving there mate. Are we talking about any second job or just consultants? Or does just counting consultants help with the Tory bashing?
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Nice bit of goal post moving there mate. Are we talking about any second job or just consultants? Or does just counting consultants help with the Tory bashing?'"
No need for Tory bashing, thanks to the Clown Leader, their own infighting is on the increase.
The comedy value is the highlight of Boris's premiership.
As for goalpost moving, Boris is definitely the man for that particular job
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"No need for Tory bashing, thanks to the Clown Leader, their own infighting is on the increase.
The comedy value is the highlight of Boris's premiership.
As for goalpost moving, Boris is definitely the man for that particular job
Would you like a list to help you ?'"
Totally irrelevant reply to the question I asked but crack on if it keeps you happy.
And if there's no need for Tory bashing why on earth do you and your mates do it day after day after day after day....?
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| Because they’re a pack of lying corrupt bar stewards and their voters aren’t much better.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Totally irrelevant reply to the question I asked but crack on if it keeps you happy.
And if there's no need for Tory bashing why on earth do you and your mates do it day after day after day after day....?'"
It's all good sport isn't it.
I love how you called out others for goal post moving though, absolutely hilarious.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"No need for Tory bashing, thanks to the Clown Leader, their own infighting is on the increase.
The comedy value is the highlight of Boris's premiership.
As for goalpost moving, Boris is definitely the man for that particular job
[uWould you like a list to help you ?[/u'"
Yes please, unless they are the usual made up ones, thanks in anticipation.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Totally irrelevant reply to the question I asked but crack on if it keeps you happy.
And if there's no need for Tory bashing why on earth do you and your mates do it day after day after day after day....?'"
Because these lot must lead such sad lives that they have to pick fault with even the most mundane event ,imagine having a life that revolves around the sin bin ,get out and enjoy life
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| Quote ="JONNYGIANT"Because these lot must lead such sad lives that they have to pick fault with even the most mundane event ,imagine having a life that revolves around the sin bin ,get out and enjoy life
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Maybe you should go to your local Costa and smell the coffee.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Maybe you should go to your local Costa and smell the coffee.'"
I think instead of having a face like a slapped all of the time ,whingeing about anything Trinity related or Tory related ,try and get out and enjoy life ,use your retirement wisely
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| Quote ="JONNYGIANT"I think instead of having a face like a slapped booty all of the time ,whingeing about anything Trinity related or Tory related ,try and get out and enjoy life ,use your retirement wisely'"
He does, there's nothing he likes better than a bit of rain on matchdays when we are at home, there's a hole in the roof above his head in the East stand and before move seats he loves getting rained on, it's the only bit of pleasure he gets, that's having a whinge about it on the Wakey board
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| Quote ="JONNYGIANT"I think instead of having a face like a slapped booty all of the time ,whingeing about anything Trinity related or Tory related ,try and get out and enjoy life ,use your retirement wisely'"
That’s the best you could come up with in defence of your party. Why don’t you try to post some positives or do you prefer people to just ignore the mess they are making.
I wouldn’t worry about Trinity because based on last season and the money the Giants spent you should be concerned about them and the season ahead.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"That’s the best you could come up with in defence of your party. Why don’t you try to post some positives or do you prefer people to just ignore the mess they are making.
I wouldn’t worry about Trinity because based on last season and the money the Giants spent you should be concerned about them and the season ahead.'"
I presume you're single?
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| Quote ="chissitt"He does, there's nothing he likes better than a bit of rain on matchdays when we are at home, there's a hole in the roof above his head in the East stand and before move seats he loves getting rained on, it's the only bit of pleasure he gets, that's having a whinge about it on the Wakey board
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What a life he must lead ,I noticed last week he was going to have a break from the Wakey board ,that didn't last long ,he just can't help himself
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Maybe you should go to your local Costa and smell the coffee.'"
Well I can't stir one can I, tw#tting brexiteers
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"That’s the best you could come up with in defence of your party. Why don’t you try to post some positives or do you prefer people to just ignore the mess they are making.
I wouldn’t worry about Trinity because based on last season and the money the Giants spent you should be concerned about them and the season ahead.'"
Yes I'm really concerned about the Giants ,I don't think I'll be able to sleep at night
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Left and Right cheeks of Boris Johnson’s big fat Arse.
And yep, spewing e between them
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Obviously Fletcher is another Tory MP who is thick as mince and got elected in a seat where they didn't expect to win so just put up the first person who applied. But putting that to one side his argument, such as it is, is purest culture war - find an issue that sounds like a desperate cultural problem which will really rile up the right wing nationalist/grievance-obsessed base and find a reason for British demise that absolves the government of any responsibility.
"Look at this!" they say, "this destruction of our traditions! This is why we have a crime problem. This is why you, our base, feel everything is wrong with our country".
"It's nothing to do with our policies of slashing police budgets and destroying council programmes which dealt with social issues. It's because these 'lefties' are allowing women on the TV. Which didn't happen in our day, did it. And we turned out all right".
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Obviously Fletcher is another Tory MP who is thick as mince and got elected in a seat where they didn't expect to win so just put up the first person who applied. But putting that to one side his argument, such as it is, is purest culture war - find an issue that sounds like a desperate cultural problem which will really rile up the right wing nationalist/grievance-obsessed base and find a reason for British demise that absolves the government of any responsibility.
"Look at this!" they say, "this destruction of our traditions! This is why we have a crime problem. This is why you, our base, feel everything is wrong with our country".
"It's nothing to do with our policies of slashing police budgets and destroying council programmes which dealt with social issues. It's because these 'lefties' are allowing women on the TV. Which didn't happen in our day, did it. And we turned out all right".
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"[uObviously Fletcher is another Tory MP who is thick as mince and got elected in a seat where they didn't expect to win so just put up the first person who applied. [/uBut putting that to one side his argument, such as it is, is purest culture war - find an issue that sounds like a desperate cultural problem which will really rile up the right wing nationalist/grievance-obsessed base and find a reason for British demise that absolves the government of any responsibility.
"Look at this!" they say, "this destruction of our traditions! This is why we have a crime problem. This is why you, our base, feel everything is wrong with our country".
"It's nothing to do with our policies of slashing police budgets and destroying council programmes which dealt with social issues. It's because these 'lefties' are allowing women on the TV. Which didn't happen in our day, did it. And we turned out all right".'"
That could also be applicable to most of the labour members as well nod, btw it's only obvious to those it's obvious to if that helps.
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| Quote ="chissitt"That could also be applicable to most of the labour members as well nod, btw it's only obvious to those it's obvious to if that helps.'"
Do any of your posts not try to change the subject or distract from the point?
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Do any of your posts not try to change the subject or distract from the point?'"
Only in your eyes nod, not for the first time your selectively having a pop at a Tory MP, I'm sure your right but I'm simply redressing the balance by pointing out the frailties of the labour MPs as well, also what is clearly obvious to you might not be obvious to everybody else, hope your not that blinkered like your 2 mates wink & blink to understand that.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Only in your eyes nod, not for the first time your selectively having a pop at a Tory MP, I'm sure your right but I'm simply redressing the balance by pointing out the frailties of the labour MPs as well, also what is clearly obvious to you might not be obvious to everybody else, hope your not that blinkered like your 2 mates wink & blink to understand that.'"
A Tory MP saying something monumentally moronic isn't being selectively chosen in any way other than by themselves.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"A Tory MP saying something monumentally moronic isn't being selectively chosen in any way other than by themselves.'"
I quite agree, but in the interest of fairness don't you agree that you ought to be less selective about the Tory element and share the criticism among all parties, or are you that one eyed like the 3 bowery boys on here from the Wakey board.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Nice bit of goal post moving there mate. Are we talking about any second job or just consultants? Or does just counting consultants help with the Tory bashing?'"
Happy to look at and discuss the numbers for all second jobs if you can provide them. I just went with what I found first that seemed interesting/relevant to me.
If we are looking at second jobs more broadly, I think we do have to acknowledge a world of difference between somebody like Dr Phillipa Whitford MP of the SNP helping patients with breast cancer during parliamentary recess and what are effectively paid lobbying roles.
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