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| Quote ="tb"Meawhile: "Total earnings of barclays chief are 4,899 per cent higher than 30 years ago, says FT. Not a typo"
I'm fairly sure that the RPI (or even CPI) cost of living hasn't risen 4,899% in 30 years. Nor has the AEI.'"
But what about the productivity of the Barclay's boss? Has that risen 4,899% in 30 years?
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| Just had the South Somerset News (local council guffpaper) delivered and was interested to read about changes to Housing Benefit.
If you are aged 25-34, live alone and are in receipt of housing benefit, you will now be assessed based on the Local Housing Allowance rate for shared accommodation as opposed to a one-bed property. So your housing benefit reduces from £91.15 per week, to £58.50 per week. I presume that the shorfall will be made up from whatever other benefits you receive. Shouldn't be too long before we return those bijou little carboard residences that used to be all the rage 30 years ago.
I suppose there's always the possibility that the private landlords will realise that it's the coalition that have cut the benefits and will accept £30-odd a week less. After all, we is all in this together eh?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"
I suppose there's always the possibility that the private landlords will realise that it's the coalition that have cut the benefits and will accept £30-odd a week less. After all, we is all in this together eh?'"
If there are sufficient tenants so affected then most landlords will have to accept less.
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| Quote ="Dally"If there are sufficient tenants so affected then most landlords will have to accept less.'"
Hang on, a flock of pigs have just flown past the window...
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Hang on, a flock of pigs have just flown past the window...'"
So they'd prefer empty properties, with no income and high squatter risk?
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| Quote ="Dally"So they'd prefer empty properties, with no income and high squatter risk?'"
The squatting that is soon to be made [url=http://www.mx1.asylum.co.uk/2011/11/22/squatters-an-investigation/a criminal act?[/url
This is how the evil bastads work, it's little different to stockpiling coal and then forcing a confrontation with the NUM
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| Quote ="cod'ead"The squatting that is soon to be made [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=11&t=514104a criminal act?[/url
This is how the evil bastads work, it's little different to stockpiling coal and then forcing a confrontation with the NUM'"
That link leads to a thread about phone hacking Coddy, unless I am mistaken, or you change it.
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| Quote ="Dally"So they'd prefer empty properties, with no income and high squatter risk?'"
Yes. A neighbour of my parents (A Doctor who lives in another county) owns a two up, two down property. He bought 8 years ago and its never been occupied. Squatters (i use the term loosly, more like junkies) moved in, it took the Council months to get them out. The Landlord has been issued twice with a bill from the Council about clearing up the front garden and back yard. The wall to the back yard has tumbled down and he refuses to rebuild it. All of the streets unwanted bulky items end up in the yard along with needles, other parafinalia and bodily fluids. The Landlord still refused to do anything about it. He's had offers from another landlord who owns a few hours down the terrace but the asking price was ridiculous. When the Council sent him a letter regarding compulsory purchase he then put the property up for auction. It sold yesterday for 50% less than what he offered the neighbouring landlord
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| Quote ="tb":3tjdqn6wMeawhile: "Total earnings of barclays chief are 4,899 per cent higher than 30 years ago, says FT. Not a typo"
I'm fairly sure that the RPI (or even CPI) cost of living hasn't risen 4,899% in 30 years. Nor has the AEI.'" have seen their incomes fall against the rising cost of living over the last 30 years" and the evidence that backs this claim up. I'm not bothered about those at the very top, they generally do a decent job of looking after themselves, I'm more interested in everyone else.
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| Quote ="SBR"That's very nice for him, I'm sure. But I'm more interested in "everyone apart from those at the very top, [who have seen their incomes fall against the rising cost of living over the last 30 years" and the evidence that backs this claim up. I'm not bothered about those at the very top, they generally do a decent job of looking after themselves, I'm more interested in everyone else.'"
Have you read the links or did you see the quote and article from the [iFT[/i (hardly some bastion of lefty thinking)?
Plus the other quote I posted?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Then your powers of understanding is as bad as Sal's.'"
Bit like you really - your inability to comprehend what is happening here is not a shock to me and I suspect not a shock to anyone else except your mates Tb and Mintball. The fact you support Mintball's barmy view says much - but then when you have your own fiefdom!!
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| Quote ="Mintball"But what about the productivity of the Barclay's boss? Has that risen 4,899% in 30 years?'"
More lefty clap trap - the boss of Barclays gets paid what the market determines he is worth - do you honestly think Barclays pay 2m more than they have to secure his services. I know you think any man and his dog could do this job but you are wrong - there are few people who could run an organisation that size and complexity. His pay is in line with many CEO's of similar sized businesses. Compared to some of the salaries in similar companies in other countries his pay is modest. Compared to top soccer players - let's not go there, this is simple supply and demand economics.
Have Barclays profits risen in 30 years, have their share values risen, have the dividends risen has their liquidity risen etc this is how you measure his productivity - it is about making the correct decisions.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"That link leads to a thread about phone hacking Coddy, unless I am mistaken, or you change it.'"
Fixed, don't know what happened there
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| I think its a brilliant idea. Id have the dole wollers helping local government for their payments. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.
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| Quote ="liedetector"I think its a brilliant idea. Id have the dole wollers helping local government for their payments. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.'"
And around we go...
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| Quote ="Rock God X"And around we go...'"
Don't be so critical, he's obviously put a great deal of thought into that post
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| Quote ="liedetector"I think its a brilliant idea. Id have the dole wollers helping local government for their payments. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.'"
...and you'd be back here in a couple of months saying that it's not right that these people have guaranteed jobs.
Or am I wrong?
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| If anyone missed it last night, I can recommend watching [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8907464/Ian-Hislop-When-Bankers-Were-Good-BBC-Two-review.htmlIan Hislop's "When Bankers Were Good"[/url on BBC iPlayer
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| Quote ="cod'ead"If anyone missed it last night, I can recommend watching [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8907464/Ian-Hislop-When-Bankers-Were-Good-BBC-Two-review.htmlIan Hislop's "When Bankers Were Good"[/url on BBC iPlayer'"
'twas good, especially the Bishops viewpoint.
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| [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/18/aspiration-nation-youth-unemploymentJohn Harris putting in yet another good article[/url. He's been very instrumental in getting the Guardian to expose this scam that's going on right now.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Have you read the links or did you see the quote and article from the [iFT[/i (hardly some bastion of lefty thinking)?
Plus the other quote I posted?'"
Yes. They are all about income inequality. Not about how incomes for all but the very top have fallen against the rising cost of living over the last 30 years. These are two completely different things and the latter intrigues me, hence why I asked for more information on where this particular statistic comes from.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Bit like you really - your inability to comprehend what is happening here ...'"
Irony overload! Irony overload.
Do you remember those bananas, Sal – the one you thought I wanted you to stop buying because you're not capable of reading and comprehending a post properly?
Do you remember the expenses that you insisted all those carers etc were getting?
Do you remember all those times you've been shown, by various posters, to be incapable of comprehension – or just in possession of things that weren't facts – but then mysteriously failed to acknowledge?
Quote ="liedetector"I think its a brilliant idea. Id have the dole wollers helping local government for their payments. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.'"
Why is it that reactionaries are so often barely literate? Is it just an indication of how things are in the 'real world'?
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Quote ="SBR"Yes. They are all about income inequality. Not about how incomes for all but the very top have fallen against the rising cost of living over the last 30 years. These are two completely different things and the latter intrigues me, hence why I asked for more information on where this particular statistic comes from.'"
The rising cost of living has been greater than the rate of rising pay for all by a tiny number.
A quick search under 'falling wages UK' reveals all these links.
www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gbx3_TZDg
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The rising cost of living has been greater than the rate of rising pay for all by a tiny number.
A quick search under 'falling wages UK' reveals all these links.
www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gbx3_TZDg
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They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that [iover the last 30 years[/i income has fallen against the cost of living.
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They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that [iover the last 30 years[/i income has fallen against the cost of living.
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Quote ="SBR"They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that [iover the last 30 years[/i income has fallen against the cost of living.'"
If that's down to the recession alone, then why isn't it impacting on those at the very top too?
I have access to Google – here's another search: 'falling Uk wages 30 years'. There's plenty.
www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gaU_Ny7Dg
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Quote ="SBR"They all appear to be referring to the short term and as we are in the middle of a recession it's hardly surprising. The claim was that [iover the last 30 years[/i income has fallen against the cost of living.'"
If that's down to the recession alone, then why isn't it impacting on those at the very top too?
I have access to Google – here's another search: 'falling Uk wages 30 years'. There's plenty.
www.google.co.uk/search?client=s ... -gaU_Ny7Dg
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