And ironically, the increase in hourly rates, has brought with it more and more zero hours contracts and in the "delivery" sector, a move to increased numbers of "self employed" drivers, who are in everything but name, agency drivers, serving just one paymaster.
Back in the day, they would have been employed full time on a "proper" contract and entitled to sick pay and paid holidays.

Some of these people like being their own boss but, dont kid yourself that its progress. The same goes for Uber and many of the large employers, who now have a vast array of part time staff, to avoid the expense of NI and sick pay.

So, ask the question about "why" the government would want to lose employees protection from the deal ??

I would never employ anyone on a zero hours contract - I don't think it is correct but it does suit some people. I need take Uber prefer Amber in Leeds although I think they are pretty much self employed.

I employ 170 drivers none on zero hour contracts I do have a big demand from self-employed drivers and lose drivers to it - IR35 will put a stop to that.

Employee protection was part of a whole raft of items that moved from the EU control to the UK Parliament as part of Boris' WA - Labour just highlighted it as an easy target - when they have no evidence whatsoever that the Tories will do anything and there is no evidence to base it on. Just Labour grasping at straws - project fear.

Because these are the sorts of socialist interventions into the free market which you have been warning us about? I'd have thought you'd be manning the barricades to get rid of them; or does your forceful bluster about Marxism and Socialism waver when it comes to actual details?

Boris Johnson said he’d rather be dead in a ditch than extend the Brexit deadline beyond 31st October

Once again he’s been shown to be a proven liar, you can’t trust a single word he says

Never trust any politician. You will always end up disappointed.

Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson is the least trustworthy of them all

As you don't actually employ anybody you wouldn't understand how competitive it is to find and recruit talented people - offering worse terms than a rival is hardly going to help your recruitment position and the overall competitiveness of your business - take it from someone who employs 300+ people. This is not some free market think tank this is the reality in the trenches - you should try it some time!!

You're ignoring, probably wilfully, the fact that in a bonfire of regulations, the recruits you currently have to fight for, won't have better options; hence why it is often referred to as a race to the bottom.

And before you start rattling on about your business empire - yes, I employ people, in large number.

Of course you do - but it wont be your money at risk or your business!! - there will always be a scramble for talent business is a game played by people simple. Good employers will always compete for the best people its how business grow and prosper its the quality of the human capital that people invest in. The only way this changes is if you nationalise everything and then you will a reduction in quality opportunities.

Wrong; you really should stop this assumption habit - it's bad for your argument.



That literally makes no sense - at all.

Jeez I'd better tell the people in the 2,500 strong payroll I sign off every four weeks!
Fortunately not everyone who does well out of the economy is blind to the reality of the many and, oftentimes, the good fortune of the few.

Wow, you do all that on your own. I prostrate my self in admiration. That micky mouse degree you got worked at well after all.

I think you're confusing me for Sal, who appears to think that everything he got in life was due to his hard work and anyone who didn't have any success has only themselves to blame.

Absolutely not - yes I have worked really hard but I have had my share of luck along the way. There is no reason why the vast majority of the population could achieve what I have. I was born in a back to back house in Bradford with an outside toilet. I went to one of worst comprehensive schools in Bradford and I didn't go to university. There are people in society who are incapable either mentally or physically from working and we need to look after them but they are a very small minority. There are plenty of examples of people from humble backgrounds making good through their own hard work - that should be applauded not roundly condemned.

The worst kind of Tory (and I've never yet met a good type).
How are the Jonese's next door.

The politics of envy - as was pointed out to Ms Long-Bailey yesterday

To answer your question - richer than me

It's got nothing at all to do with envy - it's about fairness; the view that everyone can be successful if they work hard, often parroted by people who have never had to work hard because they made money by having money, is a myth, designed to keep people in wage slavery.

It has everything to do with envy - it is true there are hundreds of thousands of examples of people who have started with nothing who have done very well - SME's are lifeblood of our economy they make up 99.9% of all businesses they account for 60% of private sector output and they employ 60% of all private sector workers i.e. c17m. Very few of these businesses will represent money on money.

The idea that we shouldn't have any billionaires is complete madness and contradicts - there is a surprise - what Corbyn has previously said. As everyone knows the top 1% contribute 30% of the income tax take - how much more do you want them to pay?

So you start a business and it is successful and it grows and it continues to grow to a point where you are a billionaire due to the perceived value of the company - no chance they will be liquid billionaires - what do you do stop working stop trying to grow the company further - allow the competition to catch up - where do you stop?

He's right. It's pure envy.
If only I could come back next time as a jerk- off a la Boris, JRM or IDS, imagine how more fulfilled I'd feel?

You can only dream - I doubt you would turn down the lifestyle of the likes of James Dyson and I don't only mean the money.

Not for me mate.
I'm quite happy with my lot.

Yes but it wont be your money with which you paying these people will it



The most vulnerable in society need to be looked after - the rest have every opportunity to progress - the pinnacle of their career could be signing off of a monthly payroll of 2,500 using someone else's money to pay them

most couldn't even imagine such a lofty achievement

Sigh.
I've seen all sides of business, I've worked with someone who made his fortune from literally nothing - he grew up in a caravan but we managed to sell the business for £150m.
He sold to private equity and a more incompetent idiotic bunch of idiots you couldn't wish to meet; within four years the same company went into administration, then we had to put it through a CVA and eventually it was liquidated.

But in my life before that most of my clients (probably around 75%) owned their businesses because they inherited them or inherited wealth. I didn't begrudge them that but that's the way it is for most people of wealth - there is little equality of opportunity in the UK, just working hard doesn't cut it.

The first bloke I mentioned worked hard and was great at what he did - but he got incredibly lucky in lots of ways (not least me coming to work for him

) People who work equally or more hard don't end up multi millionaires or even close. This is what I think modern conservatives miss - they can't imagine alternate universes where their efforts come to naught, where they strike bad luck, where, in LBJ's famous words, they get caught by the tentacles of circumstance. It's this lack of empathy and lack of understanding of their own good fortune, this sense of entitled arrogance that makes me uncomfortable in the company of all too many modern conservatives.

99%, given that is their share in the income stakes.

If the UK generates £1 and the tax bill on that is 40%, then of the 40p in tax, 39.6p should be paid by the people getting 99p and .04p is the fee charged from those who share in the 1p in income.

You decrying that some should learn to swim, or they can sink, is the politics of the far right, fascism and the Nazis. The fact that the parties you support are more than happy to blame 197,000 refugees for the hardship imposed on a population of 62,000,000 is further evidence that you're a supporter of blaming anyone else other than yourselves.

Genuine question. When you were in school, what parts of BRITISH history were you taught?
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That link takes you to the A-level History syllabus.....not a mention of any of the colonisation of the planet and the rape and pillage by Britain on which the upper class wealth of the likes of Boris was built....plenty about Napoleon (we beat him), the Americans (they kept slaves), German aggression and loads of other stuff where Britain is GREAT.........the reality is that you've been spoon-fed a history that the upper classes want you to know, not the reality.

My 6 years of secondary education cost more than your average 2 up 2 down house in Northern Britain and I can claim to have received more "steps up" than most, but I was educated in a country that believed in ALL TRUTHS being told, not just the convenient ones. It would seem spoon feeding the lower classes stories of Otto Von Bismark with his pointy hat or the really short 5"11" Napoleon (both who you defeated) are more important that the stuff that mattered.....like why Israel is so hated by the Arabs (british thing), why India and Pakistan are at war (British Thing), why Hong Kong residents are rioting (British Thing), why Hitler rose to prominence so quickly after WWI (british thing)....oh, and who transported most of those african slaves that caused the US civil war.....yep, A british thing too. None of this is taught to your kids......why do you think that is?

You're happy to ignore this brainwashing, but decry one of the best things that Britain ever did......THE NHS.


EXAMPLE: My educators balanced the story of the original Irish Bloody Sunday, when the British drove armoured vehicles into Croke Park and opened fire on the crowd (another part of history you weren't taught) with the reality of the assassination of multiple british officers the night before by the IRA, in their beds, some beside their wives....it's about balance of information. The Black and Tans Burnt Cork after an ambush killing some of their troops....maybe a tad OTT in the revenge stakes, but I was told "the why".
Did you know that Winston Churchill planned the Galipoli campaign and as a result of its abject failure, left political life and went to the trenches racked with guilt?

Why aren't such stories taught to your youth? I think you know why, but you, like those duped into Brexit will never admit you were lied too....

you have issues, which country do you hail from, you seem to hate the western world?