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| Checking this thread's progress is now one of the highlights of my day.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"No you didn't.
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Please tell me that photo with his descriptions written on weren't the "proof". No don't I prefer it if it was!
Me too Wheels! It's like car-crash TV! The Butchers note that Stan thinks the ISS is a hologram is hilarious. Is that his genuine opinion? ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="ryano"Please tell me that photo with his descriptions written on weren't the "proof". No don't I prefer it if it was!
Me too Wheels! It's like car-crash TV! The Butchers note that Stan thinks the ISS is a hologram is hilarious. Is that his genuine opinion?
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Certainly is.
I'm sure he'll be along to let you know why soon enough. If you've got a sado-masochist streak you could search back over the couple of large threads that contain his ramblings to see it for yourself.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iHahaha Whats That wheres the authentic working Satellite picture that's PACMAN. Its a CGI illustration[/i.
[iHow can anybody take you serious. I didn't ask for illustrations. Mugwumps right your photo analysis is shocking.[/i
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This is not a reply, I am just quoting Stan's rambling random keypresses for amusement. Talk about losing the plot! There's nothing to add, really, he was bad from the start, but has now become a caricature.
I am reviewing my former position on not playing chess with pigeons. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| All the TV aerials point in different directions depending on where you are in the country.
All the sky dishes all point towards the same thing and its not Trafford.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"... Where i live the Sky dishes point towards a known mast in the Trafford Park area. '"
LIAR! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) All Sky dishes there point to the same place in the sky as all Sky dishes in the rest of the UK!
You do tell some absolute corkers!
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY".... just to prove the terrestrial TV signal is still analogue fed, when the digital switchover happened nobody had to switch aerials. '"
Sadly, history records that the government switched off the last analogue TV signal on 23 October 2012. It just did. This is a simple and uncontroversial fact.
The reason many upgraded their aerials when the original switchover happened was simply because the original digital signal were transmitted at reduced power, precisely so as to not interfere too much withe analogue signals. Nobody said you had to get a new aerial (well, scaremongering vendors and salesmen excepted) - if you were in a good signal area, you certainly wouldn't. But due to the reduced power initial broadcasts, some people did have to, to get decent reception. Again, all simple historical fact.
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY". The Digibox or your in built in Freeview TV transforms the analogue to Digital exactly the same with Sky. Simples[/i.'"
In your head it probably does, but sadly in real life the digital terrestrial broadcasts work by what's called multiplexing, so that instead of one channel, one station, they could squeeze multiple channels into a single UHF slot. This meant instead of the 5 analogue channels we had, suddenly we moved to (initially) 6 Digital Terrestrial multiplexes. Each one could carry maybe 8 broadcasts, and those comprised the initial 50 or so Freeview channels.
Simples, as you like to say. Fact, as it is.
The analogue TV broadcasts really do not exist any more, and for basic simple reasons, could not carry the number of channels you can get from your terrestrial aerial, so that is proof enough. (Well, no proof at all for you, obviously, but I don't count you).
Both the old analogue and the current digital terrestrial broadcast in UHF that is, 470-890 MHz
Here's a list of some of the main microwave band allocations. Sadly, these are the only frequencies that the satellites work, not UHF, and you need a line of sight and a suitably aligned dish. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the electromagnetic spectrum is a very crowded, and highly regulated and policed, place an there is no room for any mystery or secret signals like the ones you claim magically enter your Sky dish. It's all just in your head.
If these band allocations aren't to your liking, see the government, not me -I'm just quoting them. I am not in charge of allocations!
But aren't the actual facts tiresome, eh? ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| It's a lifestyle choice ....
Why live in a boring world full of Science and facts, when you can live in an exciting world full of comic book heroes, mystery and intrigue.
It's an easy choice and it's what so many 'smart people' are choosing to do.
Eventually we will all be smart, even me.
Well perhaps not me ....
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| If anyone needs to see a prophetic bit of cinema, check out Idiocracy.
It seems that in a lot of cases modern technology and knowledge, rather than make a lot of people smarter and more aware, is actually making them dumber. It doesn't help that a certain section of American culture wears its ignorance as a badge of honour, including their politicians. That culture drip feeds into the rest of western society. The internet is a great tool to increase your knowledge but most people use it to watch porn and cat videos. It also gives the nutters that used to argue with the bushes at bus stops a place to gather, share, and reinforce their wild fantasies.
It's a strange world.
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| The flat man wouldn't answer what conspiracy theorists did before the internet, obviously, so I had a look over a few articles. The following quotes sum up the whole charade perfectly.
Quote There has always been crackpots. The problem we have with the internet is that before you could only carry a sign and maybe distribute pamphlets. The odds of anyone running in to a crackpot were quite limited, and even then you could choose not to accept the offered pamphlet. These days they have the internet at their disposal, which means the rest of us have to endure their bull. And all you have to do is visit any sort of website that has people discussing things.'"
Quote The problem is that these nutjobs (and other nutjobs with every other unprovable theory under the sun) don't limit themselves to forums where they're welcome. They slither into essentially every forum at one time or another, and pollute otherwise rational discussions with their unprovable claims. Rational people attempt to show them the gaps in their thinking or smother them in sarcasm, and from there, discussions spiral into awfulness.'"
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"The flat man wouldn't answer what conspiracy theorists did before the internet, obviously, so I had a look over a few articles. The following quotes sum up the whole charade perfectly.
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Sums up well, but not perfectly.
It doesn't matter if a hoax proponent is a troll, delusional, mad or just brainwashed and gullible, if their ramblings go unchallenged then someone will read it and of these, some, having had exposure to hardly 1% science at school, risk being sucked in to the madness. So the trick is to coldly expose the drivel with the facts and the science, until the delusional's side of the convo degenerates - as Stanley's has - into incoherent and increasingly bizarre ramblings, when they reach the finger-in-the-ears cryptic incoherence stage, plain for all to see.
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| Quote ="Vince Noir"
All the sky dishes all point towards the same thing and its not Trafford.'"
They do if they are to the NW of Trafford ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) (albeit at an inclined angle)
That explains it! Our Stan lives in Leyth, and is suffering from a Lobby overdose. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Stan has one big problem. He believes in the literal interpretation of the bible. Which means flat earth, 6000 years old etc etc.
He has to fit everything else under this core belief. Nothing can undermine it, no matter how obvious. He has to go to incredible lengths to make everything squeeze into this core belief to the point that he probably can't keep track of all the inconsistencies.
The stupid thing is, he can still believe in God and what the modern world tells him. Like ISIS, it's his unwavering belief in literal interpretation that causes the problems. It's okay when individuals with crazy beliefs air them, but if enough people adopt those crazy beliefs they start to influence policy and progress in society. Retarding it at the least, and becoming dangerously out of control at the other end.
I think he's a good example of someone who thinks they think critically but is fundamentally dishonest with themselves.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Stan has one big problem. He believes in the literal interpretation of the bible. Which means flat earth, 6000 years old etc etc.
He has to fit everything else under this core belief. Nothing can undermine it, no matter how obvious. He has to go to incredible lengths to make everything squeeze into this core belief to the point that he probably can't keep track of all the inconsistencies.
The stupid thing is, he can still believe in God and what the modern world tells him. Like ISIS, it's his unwavering belief in literal interpretation that causes the problems. It's okay when individuals with crazy beliefs air them, but if enough people adopt those crazy beliefs they start to influence policy and progress in society. Retarding it at the least, and becoming dangerously out of control at the other end.
I think he's a good example of someone who thinks they think critically but is fundamentally dishonest with themselves.'"
I still forgive you for your evil tongue. You don't even know me. The indoctrination you swallowed in the infantry is dominating your horrid soul. You need love in your life. I pray for your soul. Poor soul.
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| I wasn't in the Infantry, and you say it to me like it's supposed to be insulting. Which it isn't.
You can pray for me all you want, just leave the thinking to the grown-ups.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"[u[iThe flat man wouldn't answer what conspiracy theorists did before the internet, obviously, so I had a look over a few articles.[/i[/u The following quotes sum up the whole charade perfectly.'"
[iWe used to get our information in the libraries. Where did your information come from. The News and down the pub. hahaha. Mr Knownowt calls me an idiot yet swallows all the mainstream bull. Who's the gullible one then[/i. hahaha.
[iWhat did Churchill say. "Keep them in the pubs and out the libraries[/i.".
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| It tickles me when someone says in defence ... 'you don't even know me!', when they have posted bible's worth of drivel.
We don't have to personally know you if that is what you are like, if your writings truthfully represent you.
It is drivel, ergo you represent drivel.
There is is a fuzzy, warm person on the other end of the internet which we are misunderstanding is there?
Scallops!
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iWe used to get our information from the voices in our heads. Where did your information come from. The News and down the pub. hahaha. Mr Knownowt calls me an idiot yet swallows all this reality bull. Who's the gullible one then[/i. hahaha.
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Corrected for accuracy.
You can't claim that reality consists of physics defying planets, holographic sky and satellites, Masonic controlled everything, the earth is only 6000 years old, science is made by the devil to hide some kind of truth, that the worlds biggest thinkers are in cahoots to control us all, without any credible proof and call everyone else gullible and stupid.
That's just insane.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iWe used to get our information in the libraries. Where did your information come from. The News and down the pub. hahaha. Mr Knownowt calls me an idiot yet swallows all the mainstream bull. Who's the gullible one then[/i. hahaha.
[iWhat did Churchill say. "Keep them in the pubs and out the libraries[/i.".'"
I was going to libraries way before I was old enough to go to the pub. I never recall there being a conspiracy theory section in any of them.
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| He got his information by being brainwashed .....
Then instead of rationally thinking 'how do I fit into this system I was born into?'
He thinks 'how does this system fit around me?'
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"It tickles me when someone says in defence ... 'you don't even know me!', when they have posted bible's worth of drivel.
We don't have to personally know you if that is what you are like, if your writings truthfully represent you.
It is drivel, ergo you represent drivel.
There is is a fuzzy, warm person on the other end of the internet which we are misunderstanding is there?
Scallops!'"
[iRegardless of all the ad hominem. I really don't care about what your analogy is of myself. I speak my mind and if you can't accept it thats fine. But the ad hominem that gets dished out and the traffic this thread receives is testament to the opposing viewpoint of NASA. For instance why are you even contemplating arguing when your own Astronomy thread is there to house your own erroneous views without any objection. But you all seem more angst and puerile to avenge ad hominem towards me for having a varied view. The proof is in the pudding according to your actions you'd rather direct puerile ad hominem at an idiotic Christian for having a varied outlook on life than visit the Fiction of the Astronomy thread which you call the truth. Now i visit the threads that i assume to be the source for truth which is the exposing of Bull which this thread clearly covers. So in reality i should be laughing at the ones calling me cranial ad hominem derogatory names trying to outdo or avenge my idiotic belief Hahaha Your Astronomy thread gets hardly any traffic compared to this. Whats that telling you. Actions speak louder than words..That leads me to believe you're obviously drawn to What you call Bull than truth. Whereas the truthers are drawn to truth and expose the Bull..Hahaha[/i [i Abuse you lose[/i ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I was going to libraries way before I was old enough to go to the pub. I never recall there being a conspiracy theory section in any of them.'"
[iYou would of been reading page three of the newspapers rather than researching the non fiction section.[/i ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iRegardless of all the ad hominem. I really don't care about what your analogy is of myself. I speak my mind and if you can't accept it thats fine. But the ad hominem that gets dished out and the traffic this thread receives is testament to the opposing viewpoint of NASA. For instance why are you even contemplating arguing when your own Astronomy thread is there to house your own erroneous views without any objection. But you all seem more angst and puerile to avenge ad hominem towards me for having a varied view. The proof is in the pudding according to your actions you'd rather direct puerile ad hominem at an idiotic Christian for having a varied outlook on life than visit the Fiction of the Astronomy thread which you call the truth. Now i visit the threads that i assume to be the source for truth which is the exposing of Bull which this thread clearly covers. So in reality i should be laughing at the ones calling me cranial ad hominem derogatory names trying to outdo or avenge my idiotic belief Hahaha Your Astronomy thread gets hardly any traffic compared to this. Whats that telling you. Actions speak louder than words..That leads me to believe you're obviously drawn to What you call Bull than truth. Whereas the truthers are drawn to truth and expose the Bull..Hahaha[/i
[i Abuse you lose[/i
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This thread gets traffic the same way freak shows get traffic.
They're coming to point and laugh at you, Stan. Grade A entertainment until the season starts. That's not an attack, btw, that's the truth for you Mr Truther.
People engage you because they can't believe that someone in 2016 can believe the drivel you do, and they are short with you because you are rather nasty when things don't go your way. Don't worry, your title of RLFans village idiot will remain intact long after we've got bored with you.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"This thread gets traffic the same way freak shows get traffic.
They're coming to point and laugh at you, Stan. Grade A entertainment until the season starts. That's not an attack, btw, that's the truth for you Mr Truther.
People engage you because they can't believe that someone in 2016 can believe the drivel you do, and they are short with you because you are rather nasty when things don't go your way. Don't worry, your title of RLFans village idiot will remain intact long after we've got bored with you.
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Hahaha i'm laughing the other way are your gullibility levels. The jokes are really on the you Sheeple who are being shafted by the Masonic Order. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iRegardless of all the ad hominem. I really don't care about what your analogy is of myself. I speak my mind and if you can't accept it thats fine. But the ad hominem that gets dished out and the traffic this thread receives is testament to the opposing viewpoint of NASA. For instance why are you even contemplating arguing when your own Astronomy thread is there to house your own erroneous views without any objection. But you all seem more angst and puerile to avenge ad hominem towards me for having a varied view. The proof is in the pudding according to your actions you'd rather direct puerile ad hominem at an idiotic Christian for having a varied outlook on life than visit the Fiction of the Astronomy thread which you call the truth. Now i visit the threads that i assume to be the source for truth which is the exposing of Bull which this thread clearly covers. So in reality i should be laughing at the ones calling me cranial ad hominem derogatory names trying to outdo or avenge my idiotic belief Hahaha Your Astronomy thread gets hardly any traffic compared to this. Whats that telling you. Actions speak louder than words..That leads me to believe you're obviously drawn to What you call Bull than truth. Whereas the truthers are drawn to truth and expose the Bull..Hahaha[/i
[i Abuse you lose[/i
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I think that you really should read my posts more carefully.
I don't call people names, never have and never will.
Also I don't go on the Astronomy thread.
You must be confusing me with others.
Would it be unfair to say you are confused?
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