So it looks like the UK is going to be dragged into another endless war it's people don't want, whilst David Cameron has the gaul to call people who don't support his agenda "terrorist sympathisers". It all makes me sick to my stomach.

This is nothing more than a starter. Something big and very ugly is in the pipeline. I suspect it will come around September 2017 (for a variety of reasons the US invariably chooses September as the starting month for major military campaigns). That said, I think the Russian move into Syria took a few people by surprise and the countdown could conceivably be pushed forward.

9/11 was the starting pistol for a major rewrite of laws governing civil liberties, incarceration, warrantless surveillance etc. in all Western nations. Moreover, huge sums of money have been invested in internal security specifically in the field domestic counter-insurgency.

Roughly translated - they are gearing up for the kind of civil disturbance which is the product of a major (and very unpopular) war (I also suspect we are heading for yet another economic shock - but that's another issue entirely).

Right now just about everyone in the West is thoroughly sick of war and so in order to make this plan work they are going to have to pull an ISIS rabbit out of a hat and scare the bejeezus out of everybody.

You'll know it's coming maybe two or three months in advance when leaks appear in the media about governments or major international corporations reporting staggering financial losses or gross and inexplicable misappropriation of funds. Such stories are a smokescreen for the real purpose of said funds. Major false flag operations are highly complex and insanely expensive to run. Huge quantities of cash are required to grease the skids in advance so that all obstacles to the success of the plan are removed beforehand. Payoffs to the major players both domestically and in client states. Myriad bribes to elected officials, foreign politicians, local warlords, drug-traffickers etc. Then there are the operational expenses of those agents involved in the plot (at whatever level). We're talking big, big money here. Not the kind of thing which you want putting through the yearly accounts.

Nostradamus turn in thy grave.

False Alarm, Told you it was bull, keep the fear factor raging.

There was also an unrelated task force in operation with more than 2,000 authorised firearms officers took part in the mock terror attack on a London office block.

Around 25 masked and armed officers then entered the building in waves to clear the site and confront the gunmen.

With the air spiked with the smell of gunpowder they were faced with casualties littered throughout the block, a home-made bomb and the gun-wielding "terrorists" themselves.

Crews from London Ambulance Service and Fire Brigade also took part in the role play.

So much easier to stage a hoax.Get ready.

Really wouldn't surprise me if a fake crisis event unfolded today to disrupt the climate change event and start a war, they have already filmed it for the news no doubt..

Another reliable sign that the "Power Elite" (a label first used by the highly influential American sociologist C. Wright Mills) are about to drop the hammer is a brief but intense period of political assassinations. These are the people who would undoubtedly oppose and/or interfere with the plan and consequently must be neutralized before the green light can be given.

You don't get anywhere near the kind of notice as following the money. Maybe two or three days - tops.

A classic example was the murder of Ahmad Shah Massoud by a bomb wired into a TV camera just two days prior to 9/11. Had Shah lived the US would have found it far more difficult to achieve its strategic objectives in Afghanistan following the intervention of US ground forces. John O'Neill - the man whose attempts to apprehend Bin Laden in the years leading up to 9/11 were repeatedly thwarted by the CIA was whacked on the day.

So then working on your "Logic" surely it would have made more sense for them to find something in said Suspicious Car. It's far more likely to keep the fear factor going, than a false alarm, but then I don't see conspiracy at every turn!

You are aware that these Mock Terror attacks are taking place all over the Country quite regularly aren't you? Maybe they are planning on simultaneous fake events everywhere. Oh no!

As we have no proper RAF anymore and no "aircraft carriers" how are they going to get the "Halifax / Lancaster Bombers" to take off. The goverment will also have to get permission from the Museums who have the bombers, they might not want to loan them out to the goverment. I'm with the scruffy fella who sits opposite to the one opposite who forgot all about his child and left it in a pub.,

Watching this commons "debate" is making my blood boil. These people are a far greater risk to our security than a rag tag band of religious fanatics thousands of miles away. Most of the speeches reference ground troops as well, so it's only a matter of time until we have a full blown WW3 on our hands. This will no doubt come just after some form of economic collapse, my bet would be on the bond market bubble bursting at some point next year after interest rates go up.

I can't bare to watch it. that piece of scum Mr Piggy Cameron is lying to you and wants to deceive you and take you to a 1984 new world order where he will be living with luxuries while you and you family are suffering under their dictatorship. He hates you and pretends he cares..when are people going to wake up to this excrement

Only a few months ago he wanted to bomb Syria and to out Assad, arming their made-up terror group ISIS or ISIL or whatever they call themselves these days, they have more name changes than climate change or global warming or global freezing...The FACT is that now in a complete u-turn he wants Assad's help to bomb the made-up terror group ISIS that he has been arming...I think if anyone is a terrorist sympathiser it is David Piggy Cameron and his mates who only are interested in bombing the hell out of Syria and killing innocent people along the way

Cameron has practically no say in the matter - other than serving his pre-assigned role as a kind of legislative rubber stamp. The guy is under all kinds of pressure from interests which are way above his pay grade.

I mean, if you are looking to Parliament for any kind of salvation then you really haven't been paying attention for the past sixty years.

Wow! I can't really decide if you are on a wind up, or just the strangest man alive.

The sooner the better we get the planes in the sky the better. Lets rid the world of the scumbags.

Fill your boots Stan. uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/id ... 2?irpc=932

Fill your boots Stan. uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/id ... 2?irpc=932

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Another staged hoax whilsta trial run was in operation. Ha ha wake up [urlhttps://youtu.be/YhbSy_k0jCA[/url

We are not being dragged into another war! We have been in the same war for over a year. All this is is an extension of the area of operation from Iraq, over a border that Daesh doesn't recognise, into the Daesh controlled areas of Syria.

Polls have shown a clear majority of our people approve airstrikes than disapprove, although the majority may have reduced in recent days it remains a clear majority. Of those polled only Labour voters changed from a majority for action to a majority against action in recent days but we should remember that it was theses Labour voters who lost the election in May by a big majority.

Parliament had a long debate with all sides having chance to express opinions and good speeches from both sides too. In the end a clear and decisive majority voted to back the government action. Misinformation and failure to accept democracy when it doesn't go your way makes me a bit sick too.

We've been in the same war (with a brief interlude during WWII) for the past hundred years. Only the proxies change.

As for this idea for democracy - I could point to any number of anti-democratic decisions taken by successive governments but the truth is the very idea of a representative democracy is throwback to the days when it took a week for the local MP to ride down to London and back again. The notion that a single guy can represent the interests of me, you, the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker, BAE Systems and any number of other interests within a geographical location is patently absurd.

We live in an interconnected Information Age - people are perfectly capable of representing themselves. If not - don't bother calling it democracy.

Quote ="Juan Cornetto"We are not being dragged into another war! We have been in the same war for over a year. All this is is an extension of the area of operation from Iraq, over a border that Daesh doesn't recognise, into the Daesh controlled areas of Syria. Polls have shown a clear majority of our people approve airstrikes than disapprove, although the majority may have reduced in recent days it remains a clear majority. Of those polled only Labour voters changed from a majority for action to a majority against action in recent days but we should remember that it was theses Labour voters who lost the election in May by a big majority. Parliament had a long debate with all sides having chance to express opinions and good speeches from both sides too. In the end a clear and decisive majority voted to back the government action. Misinformation and failure to accept democracy when it doesn't go your way makes me a bit sick too.'" What polls would these be, Jaun? https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/12/02/an ... kes-syria/ Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and now Syria to add to the never ending success story of Western military intervention in the Middle East. What was Einstein's definition of insanity? Instead of killing 100s of innocent people, why aren't the UK, and the West doing more to cut off IS's revenue streams? Could that be because that would mean taking Qatar, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, in particular to task on their support for IS, and refusal to take any Syrian migrants? It would, but obviously we can't go poking the Saudi's with a stick, that would be bad for business. I mean, it's not as if the Saudi's have beheaded 150 people already this year, and impose the same brutal interpretation of Wahhabism as the IS, ISIS, ISIL, Deash, or whatever other name the media is going to come up with to keep the drums of war beating. I wouldn't find this whole think quite so repugnant if it were, indeed intended to rid the world of religious fascism, but it isn't, it's to remove a regime that won't play ball with Western energy companies.

Quote ="Juan Cornetto"We are not being dragged into another war! We have been in the same war for over a year. All this is is an extension of the area of operation from Iraq, over a border that Daesh doesn't recognise, into the Daesh controlled areas of Syria. Polls have shown a clear majority of our people approve airstrikes than disapprove, although the majority may have reduced in recent days it remains a clear majority. Of those polled only Labour voters changed from a majority for action to a majority against action in recent days but we should remember that it was theses Labour voters who lost the election in May by a big majority. Parliament had a long debate with all sides having chance to express opinions and good speeches from both sides too. In the end a clear and decisive majority voted to back the government action. Misinformation and failure to accept democracy when it doesn't go your way makes me a bit sick too.'" What polls would these be, Jaun? https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/12/02/an ... kes-syria/ Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and now Syria to add to the never ending success story of Western military intervention in the Middle East. What was Einstein's definition of insanity? Instead of killing 100s of innocent people, why aren't the UK, and the West doing more to cut off IS's revenue streams? Could that be because that would mean taking Qatar, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, in particular to task on their support for IS, and refusal to take any Syrian migrants? It would, but obviously we can't go poking the Saudi's with a stick, that would be bad for business. I mean, it's not as if the Saudi's have beheaded 150 people already this year, and impose the same brutal interpretation of Wahhabism as the IS, ISIS, ISIL, Deash, or whatever other name the media is going to come up with to keep the drums of war beating. I wouldn't find this whole think quite so repugnant if it were, indeed intended to rid the world of religious fascism, but it isn't, it's to remove a regime that won't play ball with Western energy companies.

Great post Charlie, here's an interesting statistic for you.

In the year 2000 - 7 countries without a Rothshild owned central bank:Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba, N.Korea, Iran. Syria

In 2003 - 6 countries without a Rothshild Central Bank: Sudan, Libya, Syria, Cuba, N. Korea, Iran.

In 2011 - 4. countries left:Cuba, N. Korea, Iran. Syria

In 2015 - Syria is the next to go leaving, Cuba, N. Korea, Iran.

I think it's a no brainer who's next after Syria.

Yeah, I Think I've decided. You are the strangest man on here, not on a wind up. The way you see hoax in everything is comical.

You do realise, that these Trial runs take place all over the country on a daily basis right?

The way you disrespect those who have died in events like this, by stating it never happened is a disgrace. But then for an already banned once Homophobe like yourself, I guess you have no issues in how low you stoop.

If my post's disturb you i suggest you press the FOE button. But no you love stalking me.

How much of that is definite? I'm not saying it's not possible but we, as a culture, like to assume that things like this are driven by one point of source. My feeling would be that it's very possible a connection with the banks, the lumping of this all onto the Rothschilds seems too convenient, almost anti-semetic. I'm certainly not discounting the involvement of their banks but I'd expect it to involve other big financial interests as well.

It's the easiest thing in the world to cut off ISIS revenue streams. Stop paying them.

Technically speaking the enemy here is Russia and/or China (depending on which day of the week it is). We've been fighting the Big Red Bear and the threat of Russian expansion into our geopolitical sphere of influence since the Crimean campaign and before. The "Great Game" never ended and we'd be fighting Putin's armies right now if it weren't for the darned inconvenience of nuclear weapons which immediately ended war.

I'll say that again just in case people mistake the above for a typo.

[uNuclear weapons ended war. [/u

So what are we doing right now in Syria you ask?

Genocide. Plain and simple.

Wars are fought between the standing armies of states which target each other until the resources of the state in question are exhausted. But ever since the introduction of atomic weapons "war" has increasingly become a process whereby standing armies target civilians. Take a look at the civilian casualty rates since WWI. At the turn of last century less than 10% of casualties in war were civilian. During WWII this percentage climbed into double figures (mainly through the area bombing campaigns of the Allies and Axis powers). Then in Korea & Vietnam the proportion of civilian deaths jumped dramatically to nearly fifty percent with the emergence of "Counter-Insurgency Warfare". Counter-insurgency warfare is a war against civilians.

Why target civilians you ask? [iBecause we daren't target other states for fear of total annhilation just as we daren't STOP fighting because the profits derived from killing are the lifeblood of the global economy. [/iSomehow we've locked ourselves into a death-spiral which WILL lead to the extinction of our species.

What's taking place right now in the Middle East is a sick and twisted parody of war whereby the superpowers (all of which are fully cognizent of this fantasy and yet enthusiastically play along anyway) are literally shoving millions of people into the meatgrinder - for profit. And if you have any doubt about the validity of this argument - the civilian casualty rate has now climbed over the 90% mark. The US military now makes no attempt whatsoever to count the number of civilians killed because of this reason.

I have some very real criticisms of Jeremy Scahill and his crowd but he did the world a service with his documentary film, "Dirty Wars" where the startling admission is made that the US ran "literally thousands" of special forces counter-insurgency operations in Afghanistan which can only be described as death squads. I mean, you'd think by now people would begin to wonder how it can it be possible for so many innocent people to be wiped out at weddings and other functions by a Predator missile without wondering how "mistaken" the targetting really is ...

Just look at both the Vietnam & Korean wars. During both you saw generals on both sides PLEADING with US & Soviet leaders to deploy atomic weapons which would have ended both conflicts toot sweet. Thankfully sanity prevailed - but ONLY AT THE EXPENSE OF MILLIONS of people who were needlessly slaughtered because these campaigns were allowed to drag on FOR YEARS specifically to allow the war profiteers to earn their blood money.

It's strange how you have no response to any comments I make. Just use you and your Alter Ego Mugwumps tragic stalker angle.

Oh so we're playing the race card now are we, you're stooping that low trying to silence my views and opinions, Let me make this absolutely clear from the very start, to disable the reflexes of the permanently morally outraged and the political correctness police - I do not hate Jews. Any Jew that is a good person and doesn't have a problem with me in general I have no quarrel with, and I am not encouraging hatred towards Jews. I'm addressing the word anti-Semitism and how it is deceitfully used with a political motive, rather than a genuine desire to do good.

Let's start with a little anthropology shall we. The words "Semite" and "Semitic" refer to one of the 3 sub-races of the Caucasoid race, the Semites, and their languages. Semitic peoples include Arabs, Syriacs, Assyrians, Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews, and more. Now, many Jews have of course mixed with White Europeans and other races over the centuries. But ethnic Jews are mainly Semitic. The word "anti-Semitism" means to be against the Semitic people and their culture (NOT Jews). I often hear Zionists accusing every high-profile Arab who stands up to them of being "anti-Semitic", but how on Earth can an Arab be anti-Semitic Arabs ARE Semites. He would have to hate his own people. It is absurd, it is like a German accusing an Englishman of being anti-European. It's devoid of logic.

The reason some people are so willing to throw around the anti-Semitic label, is simple, it's a very effective silencer. It's the same as how the word "racism" has been used wrongly so much and so often, it's now meaningless because some people don't know the meaning of the word, and misapply the word either through genuine ignorance, or through malevolence and to achieve political goals. People are terrified of being labelled racist, so they shut up and walk away from the debate, which is exactly what those who utilise this disgusting tactic so often want. Anti-Semitism is used in the same way, and I'd argue it's even more extreme than the word racism because the people who brand others as anti-Semitic imply similarities to Hitler and the Nazis. If you criticise Israeli slaughter of Palestinians, you must be anti-Semitic like Hitler and want to kill 5 million Jews. For some people with a lack of courage or conviction, or those who perhaps just desire an easy life, this is obviously daunting and they will surrender rather than be labelled as an anti-Semite. It's very fruitful, and usually works. It is used all the time to smother legitimate investigation and criticism of Zionism, or perhaps the genuinely racist and psychopathic words of the Talmud. Why should Jews be exempt from the criticisms and analysis other peoples face ?

I do not believe there is a Jewish question for sensible people., Zionism is the enemy. Not all trees in the forest are diseased
Not all Jews are Zionists, Its entirely relevant to any discussion of Zionism and Judaism, as not all Zionists are Jews.


I conclude that the word is a total sham, and it is used by those with malicious intent, and those who just want to be seen to be politically correct. It is a weapon of the intellectual weakling, and a deplorable method of suffocating debate.