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| Quote ="World of Redboy"the only person to blame is yourself, you selfishly killed yourself.'"
Ignorant cvnt.
Quote ="JerryChicken"Its a point of view I suppose.
On the other hand the rugby league world is well aware of just how fragile the human mind can be and how close the tipping point is in some people when reasoning goes awry and a person who yesterday was sharing a pint with you in a pub and laughing and joking without a care in the world can the next day take their own life leaving family behind.'"
Thank you.
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| sick as a parrot, I believe....
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"sick as a parrot, I believe....'"
Poor Kate. Do you think she will be ok?
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Poor Kate. Do you think she will be ok?'"
She'll pull through, I'm sure.
A bout of morning sickness leading to a burial in Shirva, India today.
Who'd a thunk it?
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| Hmmmm.... Pregnant woman goes to hospital because she is ill - seems quite sensible to me.
On the other hand; media whip the situation into a frenzy so they can make money and two Aussie chancers pull an ill advised stunt to try to further their own careers ........... leading to a burial in Shirva India today.
Who'd a thunk it?
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Hmmmm.... Pregnant woman goes to hospital because she is ill - seems quite sensible to me.
On the other hand; media whip the situation into a frenzy so they can make money and two Aussie chancers pull an ill advised stunt to try to further their own careers ........... leading to a burial in Shirva India today.
Who'd a thunk it?'"
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| Quote ="WIZEB" '"
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| Quote ="Dreamer"?'"
You can add a variety of circumstances.
Then give them a good old shake.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You can add a variety of circumstances.
Then give them a good old shake.'"
Yes, it seems so.
I am sure that a member of the press will be able to bribe a "source close to the family" for a copy of the suicide letters leading to a subsequent rash of conspiracy theories.
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| [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.htmlhmmmmmm[/url
Will we now have that upstanding Labour politician, Mr Keith Vaz, appearing on our Christmas screens to explain this curious omission from all previous well orchestrated Media briefings?
And perhaps, a grateful, but polite refusal of the half a million Aussie Dollar compo offered by the radio company?
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.htmlhmmmmmm[/url
Will we now have that upstanding Labour politician, Mr Keith Vaz, appearing on our Christmas screens to explain this curious omission from all previous well orchestrated Media briefings?
And perhaps, a grateful, but polite refusal of the half a million Aussie Dollar compo offered by the radio company?'"
Does it really make a difference though ?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Does it really make a difference though ?'"
Of course it doesn't, except to those wanting to blame the nurse for killing herself. Only a true cretin would be surprised by the reports that she was a vulnerable individual. But there are as many of those as there are vulnerable people.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Of course it doesn't, except to those wanting to blame the nurse for killing herself. Only a true cretin would be surprised by the reports that she was a vulnerable individual. But there are as many of those as there are vulnerable people.'"
Yes, I just thought that rugby league supporters might understand that.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Does it really make a difference though ?'"
To what? That this woman is dead and no amount of new information is going to change that? True, but given the world wide media furore that her act caused, it think it reasonable to evaluate all new information.
And perhaps give those who were so eager to pontificate and jump to conclusions, a chance to wipe the copius amounts of egg from off their faces.
But you are right. This was a mother with mental health problems, possibly exaggerbated by spending her working week away from her family in London, who took her own life. She deserves our sympathy, but it is her family who deserve our compassion.
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.htmlhmmmmmm[/url
Will we now have that upstanding Labour politician, Mr Keith Vaz, appearing on our Christmas screens to explain this curious omission from all previous well orchestrated Media briefings?
And perhaps, a grateful, but polite refusal of the half a million Aussie Dollar compo offered by the radio company?'"
mmmmm sounds like as the washing was done more came out !! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin" given the world wide media furore that her act caused, it think it reasonable to evaluate all new information.
And perhaps give those who were so eager to pontificate and jump to conclusions, a chance to wipe the =#FF0000copius amounts of egg from off their faces.
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I look forward to hearing Ferocious Aardvarks reply reply after he wrote.
Quote FA wrote Indeed it may. But as from the outset I have personally attributed the lion's share of the blame to the radio station managers, rather than the DJs, and still do, why are you telling me?'"
Maybe the Lions share was Mrs Saldanhas mental health with the actions of the djs and the radio station being of smaller contibution
I look forward to hearing Cronus reply reply after he wrote.
Quote Cronus wrote That ANYONE thinks there's "more to the story" baffles me. The entire sorry episode was played out in front of the world's media. Yes, there is a suspicion she may have had other mental problems but there's no evidence of that other than reaching our own conclusions. Funny how we're all suddenly psychologists.'" .
Now we find out she had significant Mental Health problems and had two SERIOUS suicide attempts last year. The more to the story is coming out . A sad affair with many victims and lots of people having to come to terms with a tragic incident.
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| If only Ms Middleton hadn't had morning sickness?
If only she'd employed a different hospital
If only they'd had a receptionist on duty?
If only Ms Saldanha hadn't picked the phone up?
If only she hadn't previously had mental problems?
If only the Aus radio station hadn't made a prank call?
If only Father Christmas existed?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"If only Ms Middleton hadn't had morning sickness?
If only she'd employed a different hospital
If only they'd had a receptionist on duty?
If only Ms Saldanha hadn't picked the phone up?
If only she hadn't previously had mental problems?
If only the Aus radio station hadn't made a prank call?
If only Father Christmas existed?'"
If only that tower you were on about had been built in 1980.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"I look forward to hearing Ferocious Aardvarks reply reply after he wrote.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Indeed it may. But as from the outset I have personally attributed the lion's share of the blame to the radio station managers, rather than the DJs, and still do, why are you telling me?.'"
Maybe the Lions share was Mrs Saldanhas mental health with the actions of the djs and the radio station being of smaller contibution.'"
My original post remains 100% my opinion. Unlike you, seemingly:
Quote ="Durham Giant" ... did she even commit suicide.'"
Er, yes. She did. Maybe even on your planet they accept that now?
Credit though for managing to twist things round to the extent that you now suggest most of the "blame" for the suicide can be put on the nurse's mental health. That is truly sick, if ingenious.
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| I'm not sure FA as to whether you're the Oracle or the Orifice of this Forum. Perhaps you could share your thoughts on the part that her two previous suicide attempts in the last 12 months could have played.......?
And in light of these revelations, would a concerned chappie such as yourself be rather keen to ask the odious Mr Vaz what knowledge he had of this?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"My original post remains 100% my opinion. Unlike you, seemingly:
Er, yes. She did. Maybe even on your planet they accept that now?
Credit though for managing to twist things round to the extent that you now suggest most of the "blame" for the suicide can be put on the nurse's mental health. That is truly sick, if ingenious.'"
selectively quoted by you but you embarasss yourself even more by still trying to blame others rather than accepting that this was a woman with significant mental health problems who tried to kill herself twice before the incident with the DJs occurred.
Anything could have tipped her over the edge into a successful suicide attempt. It is just unfortunate it was the actions of a radio station.
Still you were quick to get the pitchforks out before all the facts were known. You then had the nerve to accuse others who said lets wait for the facts to come out before we jump on the bandwagon.
|Have you put the pitchforks and flaming torches away yet or still wanting the Djs and radio station dragged through the streets for a public flogging
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"If only that tower you were on about had been built in 1980.'"
It's Xmas evening and I've had a couple of shandies so I'll give you that one.
Watch your back!
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"I'm not sure FA as to whether you're the Oracle or the Orifice of this Forum. '"
Well, I should give it some more thought; it's not your strong suit, but it beats the hell out of what passes for your wit.
Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"Perhaps you could share your thoughts on the part that her two previous suicide attempts in the last 12 months could have played.......? '"
Yes, that's pretty straightforward. None. Had the call not been broadcast around the world, there is NO reason to suppose the nurse would not have gone back to work and done her daily job, just as she uneventfully had for the years she had done it.
Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"...to ask the odious Mr Vaz what knowledge he had of this?'"
Why do you think I am remotely interested in Vaz?
I am 'concerned' for the victim and her family, as I can imagine what they are going through, and all for a cheap laugh and radio ratings.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"selectively quoted by you '"
Rot. What embarrasses you now, is that you posed the question of whether it was even suicide. If you are trying to suggest that my "selective quote" misrepresents what you said, sadly it doesn't.
Quote ="Durham Giant"but you embarasss yourself even more by still trying to blame others '"
I really don't. As I have said from the beginning, I blame the radio station who chose to broadcast the tape. And frankly don't see how any fair minded person could do otherwise.
Quote ="Durham Giant"...rather than accepting that this was a woman with significant mental health problems who tried to kill herself twice before the incident with the DJs occurred. Anything could have tipped her over the edge into a successful suicide attempt.'"
I'm sorry - I never realised that you were her psychiatrist. Now that you have let the cat out of the bag, you may as well tell us - WHAT "significant mental health problems did she have in the first week of December 2012? Come on, you've made the claim. What "edge" was she on? What other sort of thing could have happened to push her over it? Was she just looking for an excuse, then? "Anything"? Is this your seriously considered view?
What I do know is she had lived to be 46, was a wife and a mother of 2 children, and a very responsible job, described by all as a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.
But OK, let's for a second run with your theory; this means then that it's OK to pick on people who might - for all you know or care - be vulnerable, ill, or depressed, because if they then suffer, well, that's their lookout innit, not your fault they woz a nutter, or had a weak heart, or whatever, eh?
Ironically, the presenters at the heart of the story don't actually seem a bit like that, they seem to be pretty distraught at the death. If you thought about it for a second, you would realise that the "revelations" won't actually have made one iota of difference to how they feel. Your crass take on it seems to be like "Ah, so apparently she tried to top herself before then, phew, well thank feck for that. For a minute there I felt a bit guilty"
Quote ="Durham Giant"..Still you were quick to get the pitchforks out before all the facts were known. You then had the nerve to accuse others who said lets wait for the facts to come out before we jump on the bandwagon.'"
Liar. Whilst I have dismissed dark conspiracy hinters like you and your ignorant mate, I am not on any bandwagon, and my original post remains perfectly true. Plus, as I have several times previously said, all the facts are NOT known nor will they be until the inquest finds them. Funny how that was [iyour[/i claimed position, but now you suddenly seem to know all the facts.
Quote ="Durham Giant".Have you put the pitchforks and flaming torches away yet or still wanting the Djs and radio station dragged through the streets for a public flogging'"
I've a plan for you, liar, either post where I said any such thing, or else apologise for lying.
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