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| Quote ="kirkstaller"The Bible is our friend. It tells us that God’s purpose was to create a world in which his glory could be manifest in all its fullness - the glory of God is the overarching goal of creation.'"
So it is all just a massive ego trip.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"icon_lol.gif
As if that's a judgement.'"
It is a judgment – a subjective opinion – on someone else's faith and religious knowledge and understanding.
You do it quite regularly, actually, with your comments about 'you and you are going to hell'.
Within the terms of your religion, it is not for you to judge the nature of another's relationship with god. Only your god has the right to do that.
Indeed, one might also point out Christ's teaching about not being seen carrying out your devotions – frankly, most of what you do on this forum is a version of that: 'Look at me – I'm the one with a relationship with Jesus; I'm the one who's right and you're all wrong and going to hell. Aren't I so completely the most wonderfully religious person you've ever seen?'
It's in Matthew somewhere – I think Jesus describes people like you as hypocrites.
It's not evangelism. It's showing off. And judgmentalism. Pure and simple.
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Quote ="cod'ead"So, if we are all descended from Adam & Eve, then presumably we are all products of incestuous relationships'"
Yes, though before you lay into that concept you might want to remember that abiogenesis has a similar incestuous 'yucky' problem.
Quote would that explain why there are a proportion of people born with birth defects or who later develop mental or physical problems?'"
In a way, yes. Death and disease entered the world. This includes certain handicaps.
Quote Given also that Adam supposedly lived for 930 years, he must've been banging his daughters and presumable their kids wholesale'"
Not necessarily, he might have left that to his children. In any case, it's no more icky that abiogenesis.
Quote It certainly doesn't explain the many different races and creeds though. How did that happen?'"
The Tower of Babel.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV
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Quote ="cod'ead"So, if we are all descended from Adam & Eve, then presumably we are all products of incestuous relationships'"
Yes, though before you lay into that concept you might want to remember that abiogenesis has a similar incestuous 'yucky' problem.
Quote would that explain why there are a proportion of people born with birth defects or who later develop mental or physical problems?'"
In a way, yes. Death and disease entered the world. This includes certain handicaps.
Quote Given also that Adam supposedly lived for 930 years, he must've been banging his daughters and presumable their kids wholesale'"
Not necessarily, he might have left that to his children. In any case, it's no more icky that abiogenesis.
Quote It certainly doesn't explain the many different races and creeds though. How did that happen?'"
The Tower of Babel.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV
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| Quote ="Mintball"It is a judgment – a subjective opinion – on someone else's faith and religious knowledge and understanding.'"
God has no problem with correcting professing Christians when they are clearly wrong.
Matthew 18:15-17
Galatians 6:1
Titus 3:10-11
2 Thessalonians 3:15
2 John 1:7-11
Quote You do it quite regularly, actually, with your comments about 'you and you are going to hell'.'"
They are if they are not born again. That is not my judgement, but God's Word.
Quote Within the terms of your religion, it is not for you to judge the nature of another's relationship with god. Only your god has the right to do that'" .
See above.
Quote Indeed, one might also point out Christ's teaching about not being seen carrying out your devotions – frankly, most of what you do on this forum is a version of that: 'Look at me – I'm the one with a relationship with Jesus; I'm the one who's right and you're all wrong and going to hell. Aren't I so completely the most wonderfully religious person you've ever seen?''"
I am not religious.
Quote It's in Matthew somewhere – I think Jesus describes people like you as hypocrites.'"
Biblically speaking, a hypocrite is a person who shows off but does not have a true relationship with God. I do have that relationship.
Quote It's not evangelism. It's showing off. And judgmentalism. Pure and simple.'"
You are working for Satan. Don't tempt me.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"... Death and disease entered the world ...'"
"Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."
[iJohn 1:3[/i
"For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him."
[iColossians 1:16[/i
In other words, according to the [iBible[/i itself, death and disease were created by god.
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| Quote ="Mintball"In other words, according to the [iBible[/i itself, death and disease were created by god.'"
God's righteous and just reaction to rebellion.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"... You are working for Satan. Don't tempt me.'"
Oooooooooo! "Don't tempt" you what, scary man?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"God's righteous and just reaction to rebellion.'"
Which, since he created everything (according to the [iBible[/i), then "rebellion" was also created by him – unless the [iBible[/i was telling porkies, of course ...
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"... You are working for Satan ...'"
I do love this.
It's not the first time you've posted this particular bit of dribbling drivel.
I suspect it's because you realise someone else actually does have a clue about the bunk you're wittering on about and oh, you don't like that at all, do you?
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| Quote ="Mintball"I do love this.
It's not the first time you've posted this particular bit of dribbling drivel.
I suspect it's because you realise someone else actually does have a clue about the bunk you're wittering on about and oh, you don't like that at all, do you?
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You will no doubt recall that even Satan could recite and pervert Scripture.
I have nothing more to say to you.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"You will no doubt recall that even Satan could recite and pervert Scripture.
I have nothing more to say to you.'"
Oh dear. You really don't like being challenged, do you?
Still, that means you get out of answering that last awkward little question, doesn't it?
If your god created everything, then he created rebellion too.
And you're an intellectual coward as well as everything else.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller" You are working for Satan. '"
Best. Quote. Ever.
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| Quote ="Him"Best. Quote. Ever.'"
I think he's spotted my avatar.
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| Quote ="Mintball"I think he's spotted my avatar.
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It's brilliant though! I'm going to use it all the time now. I wish I'd not replied to Smokey all those times on the Assange thread now, all I needed to put was "No, you are wrong. You are working for Satan." and just left it at that!
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| Quote ="Mintball"Oh dear. You really don't like being challenged, do you?
Still, that means you get out of answering that last awkward little question, doesn't it?
If your god created everything, then he created rebellion too.'"
It is strange since he has already answered this question in [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=17081247&tsmp=1345753285#p17081247this post[/url. The rebellion is an essential part of God's plan. Without it God would be unable to show his glorious wrath, mercy, patience, justice, grace etc.
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| Quote ="SBR"It is strange since he has already answered this question in [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=17081247&tsmp=1345753285#p17081247this post[/url. The rebellion is an essential part of God's plan. Without it God would be unable to show his glorious wrath, mercy, patience, justice, grace etc.'"
Makes you wonder why he was getting so wound up with Satan's little helper, doesn't it?
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| Quote ="Him"icon_lol.gif
It's brilliant though! I'm going to use it all the time now. I wish I'd not replied to Smokey all those times on the Assange thread now, all I needed to put was "No, you are wrong. You are working for Satan." and just left it at that!'"
Wonderful sig material.
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| Does this Satan bloke pay well? I could do with getting a bit of extra in before me holidays
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Does this Satan bloke pay well? I could do with getting a bit of extra in before me holidays'"
And let's face it, Satan is way cooler than god. I bet he's funnier as well. How cool does it sound if you can go round telling people that you work for Satan?
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| Quote ="Mintball"Makes you wonder why he was getting so wound up with Satan's little helper, doesn't it?
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Maybe a true relationship with God isn't quite so solid a foundation for faith.
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Quote ="SBR"It is strange since he has already answered this question in [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=17081247&tsmp=1345753285#p17081247this post[/url. The rebellion is an essential part of God's plan. Without it God would be unable to show his glorious wrath, mercy, patience, justice, grace etc.'"
[iQueen Mab[/i, Book VII, lines 84-160
knarf.english.upenn.edu/PShelley/mab7.html
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Quote ="SBR"It is strange since he has already answered this question in [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=17081247&tsmp=1345753285#p17081247this post[/url. The rebellion is an essential part of God's plan. Without it God would be unable to show his glorious wrath, mercy, patience, justice, grace etc.'"
[iQueen Mab[/i, Book VII, lines 84-160
knarf.english.upenn.edu/PShelley/mab7.html
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| Quote ="Him"And let's face it, Satan is way cooler than god. I bet he's funnier as well. How cool does it sound if you can go round telling people that you work for Satan?'"
The parties are way better!
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| Quote ="Him"And let's face it, Satan is way cooler than god. I bet he's funnier as well. How cool does it sound if you can go round telling people that you work for Satan?'"
He has the best music as well.
Quote ="Bill Hick"They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he f'in' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the f'in' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.'"
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| Quote ="Mintball"The parties are way better!'"
I bet the Christmas party is fantastic!
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| Quote ="Him"I bet the Christmas party is fantastic!'"
Hangover from Hell.
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