Cameron's only chance is that Ed Milliband is the only other option as PM at present....If Labour could find themselves a leader with just an ounce of charisma or personality and couple it with a few fresh ideas, then Cameron wouldn't stand a chance.

Cameron will not survive an election.

I think he just wants people to know he lays big bets (If you believe him!

) in a "I'm considerably richer than yow" tone. I see his losses are only double figures! Yeah right. FWIW I lost £10 on Shaun Lunt to win HS Trophy at OT @ 33/1 but we won so I couldn't give a toss! Congratulations to the American people!

Any leader that manages to get re-elected after being in power post 2008 must have done a half decent job. Its been a poisoned chalice of a job in the current economic climate.

Cameron isn't in the same class as Obama and Milliband has improved a fair bit over the last year. But Labour's lead in the polls doesn't look that solid given where we are in the electoral cycle. I think their Achilles Heel now isn't Milliband, its Ed Balls. If he's still Shadow Chancellor leading up to the general election he'll just remind people of the bad aspects of the Brown years and that Labour are just as capable as the Tories at being a nasty, lying unprincipled party.

Personally, I don't see Ed Milliband ever being PM - He simply doesn't have the neccessary X factor that is needed to convince the important '10%' that he can be their man.

The problem in this country is simple - Most folk are naturally Labour or Tory (with a small amount of odd folk who waste their vote on the small parties).....then there are a group of people, I'd guess about 10%, who are naturally Tory but, with the right sort of convincing, are prepared to give the 'other guy' a go if he seems a decent guy.

Tony Blair was a master at convincing this group of people and Milliband will need the same touch - Unfortunately, he has the charisma of a house brick.

The one thing that Cameron does have massively over Milliband is some semblence of personality, regardless of it being an upper class toff sort of one.....Come election time, especially during the TV debates, Milliband will be exposed pretty horribly as the unlikeable nerd he so obviously is.

Yes.

I saw the other Milliband on question time, last week i think it was, they certainly picked the wrong one.

People on this forum who consider Labour a 'penalty kick' to win the next election, are, unfortunately, sadly deluded. History tells us that the British electorate are more than capable of believing the b0llocks they are being fed!

True to form, bat[is[/ihit-loony [url=http://melaniephillips.com/america-goes-into-the-darknessMelanie Phillips has an apoplectic fit[/url

To go along with Donald Trump and Karl Rove little hissy fits it just makes the Obama win even funnier. The Trump one especially

Blame the Unions for that then.

Reading Trumps trumping tweets you just know that you are reading the ranting of a billionaire who has just lost a considerable amount of money that he "invested" in the belief that a Republican government would make him more loads of money in all sorts of deals and funny handshakes.

Its always funny when the mega rich lose big time on the casino wheels and then show how fixated they are with money.

There are more things to life than your fortune Donald.

Barbers for one thing.

If she hadn't written that seriously it would be one of the most hilarious things ever. Its not funny to mock the afflicted though

Melanie Philips started out at the Guardian. So no surprise she is a complete loon. She went to the Daily Mail to try and mitigate it, which says a lot

It was just funny that because he didn't get the result he wanted that suddenly meant the US was no longer a democracy and somehow it was a false result.
It's also the funniest time to watch Fox News right now. You can tell they're just itching to constantly scream "F*CK THE LOT OF YOU!! ITS NOT FAIR!!" and then stomp off to their room. Also it's cringe making to hear them constantly saying how wonderful it is that the US is a democracy and that the US has this kind of thing. I sometimes think that they think the US is the only country in the world to hold elections and they they invented it.

Stock market has taken a dive.

Hardly the response you would expect for a nation supposedly overjoyed about the re-election of Obama.

I prefer him over Romney but they hype is ridiculous. People are bigging this up like the second coming. Four more years. Four more years of what?

People giving a crap about something other than their bank balance?

Possibly not. Since most people are moaning about the economy, which ultimately comes down to their bank balance.

The down on the US stock market is not due to Obama's re-election.

As you say, true to form.
Philips is a big fan of Zionism and Palestinian-bashing.
If the taking-the-Book-of-Revelations-literally Bible-belt's favourite had won, Netanyahu would have had free rein.

Not that Obama has had much success in getting Netanyahu to cease the ever-expanding Lebensraum across the West Bank, at least he wouldn't give it his blessing as Republicans have always done.

I sent her an email telling her she is mental.

Quote ="Him"icon_lol.gif It was just funny that because he didn't get the result he wanted that suddenly meant the US was no longer a democracy and somehow it was a false result. It's also the funniest time to watch Fox News right now. You can tell they're just itching to constantly scream "F*CK THE LOT OF YOU!! ITS NOT FAIR!!" and then stomp off to their room. Also it's cringe making to hear them constantly saying how wonderful it is that the US is a democracy and that the US has this kind of thing. I sometimes think that they think the US is the only country in the world to hold elections and they they invented it.'" I was really enjoying watching 'The Five' on Fox yesterday evening. That's the show where four far right nutjobs and their token liberal stooge sit around a table and the stooge gets beaten up before finally agreeing to their point of view. The four main players were hilariously gutted: mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/0 ... guy/191234 mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/0 ... y-i/191231 The problem for these guys is that they genuinely believe Obama is a Marxist or Communist or Socialist, which is insane. He's as moderate as can be, veering to strongly conservative on some matters (much further to the right than Miliband for whom I could never vote). They have painted this parallel universe for themselves for the past four years and just can't see that the rest of the country knows it's not true. It's hilarious

Quote ="Him"icon_lol.gif It was just funny that because he didn't get the result he wanted that suddenly meant the US was no longer a democracy and somehow it was a false result. It's also the funniest time to watch Fox News right now. You can tell they're just itching to constantly scream "F*CK THE LOT OF YOU!! ITS NOT FAIR!!" and then stomp off to their room. Also it's cringe making to hear them constantly saying how wonderful it is that the US is a democracy and that the US has this kind of thing. I sometimes think that they think the US is the only country in the world to hold elections and they they invented it.'" I was really enjoying watching 'The Five' on Fox yesterday evening. That's the show where four far right nutjobs and their token liberal stooge sit around a table and the stooge gets beaten up before finally agreeing to their point of view. The four main players were hilariously gutted: mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/0 ... guy/191234 mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/0 ... y-i/191231 The problem for these guys is that they genuinely believe Obama is a Marxist or Communist or Socialist, which is insane. He's as moderate as can be, veering to strongly conservative on some matters (much further to the right than Miliband for whom I could never vote). They have painted this parallel universe for themselves for the past four years and just can't see that the rest of the country knows it's not true. It's hilarious

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Do these guys read a different version of the bible to the rest of us (well to the version that I seem to recall seeing bits of when I was at school anyway)? I didn't realise Jesus and God were proponents of free market economics and the interests of the one trumping the needs of the many?

It really is frightening the degree to which some Americans are effectively brainwashed. Otherwise normal, relatively smart, human beings just completely wall themselves off from reality or from logical, rational thinking.