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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I think we can expect good news next week because Johnson will be desperate to divert the attention from his multiple problems.'"
Bojo will be needing sedatives after Starmer boxed him in yesterday.
Boris seemed to lose his cool a little at PMQ's and Starmer remained ice cool.
Just who did initially pay for these (very) expensive flat renovations ?
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| Starmer has fallen even more behind Boris in the polls despite his cheap John Lewis stunt. Probably because he rocked around rawtenstall whilst totally ignoring the Covid guidelines. Obviously thinks they don’t apply to him lmao.
Surely he must go down as the worst Labour leader ever. Can anyone think of anyone worse? Even Corbyn was better and that’s saying something lmao
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| I knew care in the community would never work with the funding provided by the Conservatives.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Bojo will be needing sedatives after Starmer boxed him in yesterday.
Boris seemed to lose his cool a little at PMQ's and Starmer remained ice cool.
Just who did initially pay for these (very) expensive flat renovations ?'"
Completely agree - unfortunately the Tories are so far ahead in the polls that Johnson can virtually walk on water - and the cost of the flat doesn't even register. People just want to get back to normal - get vaccinated and move on. If the vaccination program continues at this pace Boris will be fine until the polls move against the Tories but Labour is bland I can't see how this will change.
Maybe at the end of furlough when unemployment will rise significantly then the tide might turn?
How much did they spend on the upgrade of the Lord Chancellor's gaff under Blair?
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"Completely agree - unfortunately the Tories are so far ahead in the polls that Johnson can virtually walk on water - and the cost of the flat doesn't even register. People just want to get back to normal - get vaccinated and move on. If the vaccination program continues at this pace Boris will be fine until the polls move against the Tories but Labour is bland I can't see how this will change.
Maybe at the end of furlough when unemployment will rise significantly then the tide might turn?
How much did they spend on the upgrade of the Lord Chancellor's gaff under Blair?'"
Labour are too bland, very worthy but bland.
Reckon nowadays for whatever reason, it's popularity and personality over intellect and integrity. That's why the tories are so attractive to posters like Steph Curry.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Labour are too bland, very worthy but bland.
Reckon nowadays for whatever reason, it's popularity and personality over intellect and integrity. That's why the tories are so attractive to posters like Steph Curry.'"
It is what it has always been about - what matters to the public.
If Lisa Nandy had her way all our vaccines would be sent to India - she doesn't want to question why there is no lockdown in India, why they spend a tiny % of GDP on medical care, why huge religious festivals are still going on etc. This is why Labour are out of touch with public sentiment.
The general public can see why there are issues in India - Labour don't want to address them because it might not be very woke - worthy maybe but out of touch with the electorate definitely.
Labour would have us in lockdown indefinitely because that suits their support base - all you ever hear for not opening up - there will be a new variant - its not a realistic view point - its worthy but not what bothers the electorate
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Labour are too bland, very worthy but bland.
Reckon nowadays for whatever reason, it's popularity and personality over intellect and integrity. That's why the tories are so attractive to posters like Steph Curry.'"
Looking at the polling numbers it isn't just Steph
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"It is what it has always been about - what matters to the public.
If Lisa Nandy had her way all our vaccines would be sent to India - she doesn't want to question why there is no lockdown in India, why they spend a tiny % of GDP on medical care, why huge religious festivals are still going on etc. This is why Labour are out of touch with public sentiment.
The general public can see why there are issues in India - Labour don't want to address them because it might not be very woke - worthy maybe but out of touch with the electorate definitely.
Labour would have us in lockdown indefinitely because that suits their support base - all you ever hear for not opening up - there will be a new variant - its not a realistic view point - its worthy but not what bothers the electorate'"
Is this just another litany of whataboutism? Labour aren't in government, your incompetent bunch are.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"Looking at the polling numbers it isn't just Steph'"
Yip, about 43% of the electorate, judging by the last general election.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Is this just another litany of whataboutism? Labour aren't in government, your incompetent bunch are.'"
How do you explain Labour's desperate showing in the polls - the quotes to Nandy are correct listen to JHB show on Wednesday where she was interviewed.
She wanted to stop vaccinating the younger adults and send the vaccine's to India - no shortening of lockdown maybe a another variant, not the time to tackle the issues in India in respect of health care etc.
Labour simply are not relevant.
Another desperate attempt by Van der Leyen's biatch - you need to change the record
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Yip, about 43% of the electorate, judging by the last general election.'"
Same as Blair got in the landslide of 1997, 3 points more than Blair got in 2001 and a whopping 9 points more than Blair managed in 2005.
No doubt Blair was far more legitimate in your eyes ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Bojo will be needing sedatives after Starmer boxed him in yesterday.
Boris seemed to lose his cool a little at PMQ's and Starmer remained ice cool.
Just who did initially pay for these (very) expensive flat renovations ?'"
A good barrister does not it appears by any means make a good political leader, the guy uses PMQ’s as though he is in a courtroom- can’t see him lasting much longer and to be honest I expected more of him when he first became leader
If people are preferring Bojo as a leader before him then he does have problems
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Bojo will be needing sedatives after Starmer boxed him in yesterday.
Boris seemed to lose his cool a little at PMQ's and Starmer remained ice cool.
Just who did initially pay for these (very) expensive flat renovations ?'"
A good barrister does not it appears by any means make a good political leader, the guy uses PMQ’s as though he is in a courtroom- can’t see him lasting much longer and to be honest I expected more of him when he first became leader
If people are preferring Bojo as a leader before him then he does have problems
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"
Another desperate attempt by Van der Leyen's biatch - you need to change the record'"
What's Van de Leyen got to do with Labour? I'm so confused by a lot of what you're posting nowadays, it's almost incomprehensible with occasional tourette-like exclamations of European leaders you've been brainwashed into thinking are evil.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"Same as Blair got in the landslide of 1997, 3 points more than Blair got in 2001 and a whopping 9 points more than Blair managed in 2005.
No doubt Blair was far more legitimate in your eyes
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Ooh eck. Don't think I mentioned anything about legitimacy but since you have I would say, that no party should have a majority in parliament with anything less than 51% of the vote.
I was in fact, being disingenuous when I quoted 43%. If i remember correctly, 30% vote rightish and around 30% vote leftish and would never vote for tother side no matter what. The floating vote are swayed by many things but imo, popularity and the party leaders tv appeal plus, whatever the cause of the day is, are playing a far more important part than was evident in past elections.
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| Who was the guy who decided not to charge Jimmy Saville years ago. It was the head of the CPS. His name evades me though. Can anyone remind me of his name please? He even made a grovelling apology about it for being so bad at his job. Jeez, what was his name again?
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| You know Savile was a stark raving Tory right?
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"You know Savile was a stark raving Tory right?'"
But it was the current Labour leader that didn't do his job and prosecute him. Poor judgement in anyone's eyes... even yours surely?
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| The original story was about lying in Parliament, so SC remind us who lies every time he answers or not answers at PMQ’s. I notice that even the speaker does not massively object when someone calls Johnson a liar probably because he knows he is.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Who was the guy who decided not to charge Jimmy Saville years ago. It was the head of the CPS. His name evades me though. Can anyone remind me of his name please? He even made a grovelling apology about it for being so bad at his job. Jeez, what was his name again?'"
He was actually made head of the CPS after the initial Saville investigation. The decision not to prosecute was taken by the Police and local CPS representatives and had nothing to do with Starmer. It was in fact Starmer who set up the enquiry into the failures which traced where the mistakes had been made. It was initially decided that Saville was too close to the Police and his celebrity status allowed him too much protection
The reason Starmer apologised was because he was in charge at the time the report was concluded like Johnson did regarding the way non U.K. dead were treated or do you consider Johnson to blame for that.
If you are going to make stupid comments you had better do your homework instead of being blinkered trying to blame Starmer regardless of the truth.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"You know Savile was a stark raving Tory right?'"
I asked for a name. Do you know it or are you going to resort to your usual whataboutery?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"He was actually made head of the CPS after the initial Saville investigation. The decision not to prosecute was taken by the Police and local CPS representatives and had nothing to do with Starmer. It was in fact Starmer who set up the enquiry into the failures which traced where the mistakes had been made. It was initially decided that Saville was too close to the Police and his celebrity status allowed him too much protection
The reason Starmer apologised was because he was in charge at the time the report was concluded like Johnson did regarding the way non U.K. dead were treated or do you consider Johnson to blame for that.
If you are going to make stupid comments you had better do your homework instead of being blinkered trying to blame Starmer regardless of the truth.'"
Kier starmer! That was it. He was made head of CPS in 2008 and the decision not to prosecute was made in 2009 so yes, he was the head.
Not like a Labour supporter to lie lmao
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| Wasn’t kier starmer the guy who also approved of the killing of that innocent Brazilian guy on the train?
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| So Starmer is M, who would have known. He didn’t approve the killing did he, what he did was decide not to prosecute the officers involved. This is slightly different but like you hero Johnson why let the truth spoil a rubbish post.
I would suggest you do more homework and comeback when you have evidence that Starmer was at fault when it was stated at the time the decision was not his or do we blame Johnson like I said because both situations are correct, they were in charge so it was for them to apologise. It does not automatically mean guilt just an acceptance that a wrong had been committed.
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| Sorry. My bad. It was the Labour leader who decided not to prosecute anyone for murdering an innocent man.
My bad
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