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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Big slow down in the economy in the last quater. I wouldn't be surprised to see us in recession in 12 months. Same with America'" :
shock:I dont know about the US but if you vote for Trump, nothing should be a surprise.
The UK were the proverbial Turkeys that voted for Christmas.
Having just about climbed out of the deepest recession in over 80 years, we then willingly vote out of the EU and give ourselves another economic shock.
Whether the referendum was right (and I dont think it was), the timing of it was economic suicide.
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| It is quite clear that the conservatives are the party of hate. Theresa May wants to unite Britain in one sentence but then divides us in the next by dismissing opposition parties. If world war three kicked off tomorrow, do you think labour and conservatives would form a coalition like they did in the previous world war? Not under May.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"It is quite clear that the conservatives are the party of hate. Theresa May wants to unite Britain in one sentence but then divides us in the next by dismissing opposition parties. If world war three kicked off tomorrow, do you think labour and conservatives would form a coalition like they did in the previous world war? Not under May.'"
As N Korea have just launched another missile test despite being told not to by China and the USA your hypothesis could be tested.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Yes if the UK was the only country you could work - these top people can work anywhere in the world. To think if you put a cap here they would all just stay is naive in the extreme.'"
The pay needs to be capped, workers wages have stagnated while executives incomes are soaring. I know we live in thrall of these big companies, but all it takes is a few more nations to demand that workers get a bigger share and it can be done.
The free market only exists because its allowed to.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"The pay needs to be capped, workers wages have stagnated while executives incomes are soaring. I know we live in thrall of these big companies, but all it takes is a few more nations to demand that workers get a bigger share and it can be done.
The free market only exists because its allowed to.'"
Leftist garbage, sitting in your chair, bleeding the state in your later years. I cant wait for the election and Labour to be whiped out, hopefully forever.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"The pay needs to be capped, workers wages have stagnated while executives incomes are soaring. I know we live in thrall of these big companies, but all it takes is a few more nations to demand that workers get a bigger share and it can be done.
The free market only exists because its allowed to.'"
The free market exists because it is the only system that has proved to work over an elongated time frame.
It cannot be done without the government owning everything - and we know what a mess that was before Thatcher got rid
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"a026.gif Leftist garbage, sitting in your chair, bleeding the state in your later years. I cant wait for the election and Labour to be whiped out, hopefully forever.'"
The economy is built and runs on the labour of working people - yet all we've had the last 10 years is stagnating wages, health service slashed, schools begging parents for funds, rent prices our of control etc.
Kids can't afford to save up for a deposit for a mortgage and yet the people who ruined the economy are living the life of Riley.
I appreciate the system isn't perfect but there is plenty of room for a bit of wealth redistribution. Not much difference between having £15 - £20m, but huge difference between having £15 - £150. A study recently showed that there are 15 million adults in the UK who couldn't lay their hands on £100 at short notice.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The free market exists because it is the only system that has proved to work over an elongated time frame.
It cannot be done without the government owning everything - and we know what a mess that was before Thatcher got rid'"
There's a happy medium though. Take the railways, we pay a fortune to the likes of Branson et al to deliver poor, overcrowded services. Safety and comfort is sacrificed in the name of profit, so people are jammed on like sardines and forced to pay exorbitant prices for the privilege.
A Govt doesn't have direct shareholders, so generated profits can be ploughed back into the network without franchises filling their boots with public money
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"There's a happy medium though. Take the railways, we pay a fortune to the likes of Branson et al to deliver poor, overcrowded services. Safety and comfort is sacrificed in the name of profit, so people are jammed on like sardines and forced to pay exorbitant prices for the privilege.
A Govt doesn't have direct shareholders, so generated profits can be ploughed back into the network without franchises filling their boots with public money'"
More utter shoite, your beloved Labour did nothing about anything (other than illegal wars) Branson sold Virgin as a company years ago, keep listening to Dally etc and leave the rest of us to live reality. Old people should be banned from the internet, you contribute nothing.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"More utter shoite, your beloved Labour did nothing about anything (other than illegal wars) Branson sold Virgin as a company years ago, keep listening to Dally etc and leave the rest of us to live reality. Old people should be banned from the internet, you contribute nothing.'"
I'm 30 sherlock....
As for last Labour govt, yes warmonger Blair should be in prison for his role in Iraq (Corbyn voted against Iraq and for an inquiry into it) but they achieved plenty of great things.
The whole narrative of Labour wrecking the economy is a joke as well, the GLOBAL economic crash was due to toxic debt in the USA. Brown didn't help with his dergulation, but that's not usually how a Labour govt operates, he and Blair were quite conservative with their economic policies.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I'm 30 sherlock....
As for last Labour govt, yes warmonger Blair should be in prison for his role in Iraq (Corbyn voted against Iraq and for an inquiry into it) but they achieved plenty of great things.
The whole narrative of Labour wrecking the economy is a joke as well, the GLOBAL economic crash was due to toxic debt in the USA. Brown didn't help with his dergulation, but that's not usually how a Labour govt operates, he and Blair were quite conservative with their economic policies.'"
More bullrads, Labour sold us down the river. And if you are really 30 then yould have worked harder at School, Id love too read your CV, " I went tto school, but it wasnt for me", try living in a world where you pay your own bills. I stii think youre 50+ and apomging off the people that qork.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"The economy is built and runs on the labour of working people - yet all we've had the last 10 years is stagnating wages, health service slashed, schools begging parents for funds, rent prices our of control etc.
Kids can't afford to save up for a deposit for a mortgage and yet the people who ruined the economy are living the life of Riley.
I appreciate the system isn't perfect but there is plenty of room for a bit of wealth redistribution. Not much difference between having £15 - £20m, but huge difference between having £15 - £150. A study recently showed that there are 15 million adults in the UK who couldn't lay their hands on £100 at short notice.'"
The wealth generation in the economy is not the working people its those who risk the capital in the first place and those directors that make the key decisions that generate the returns. It is called capitalism for a reason - without that your working man doesn't have a job unless the government owns everything.
Kids can save up it is no different to how it was in my parents day - my parents had to do it, I had to do it so why shouldn't kids do without to put together a deposit?
This government is spending more on education then any previous government - to suggest otherwise is simply untrue.
I agree a better spread of wealth would be preferable but to do that by saying bosses wages have to be capped is crazy in my view. It wouldn't filter down to the shop floor - the best way is to create an environment where companies prosper an demand for jobs increases that will force wages upwards. Also companies make more profits they pay more CT they employ more staff they pay more NI so you can distribute that to the needy
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"More bullrads, Labour sold us down the river. And if you are really 30 then yould have worked harder at School, Id love too read your CV, " I went tto school, but it wasnt for me", try living in a world where you pay your own bills. I stii think youre 50+ and apomging off the people that qork.'"
I do pay my own bills, worked since leaving school and own my own house + get good wages.
Doesnt change the fact the tories are destroying services and people in work are having to claim tax credits and visit food banks to make ends meet.
Thats not the society i want to live in.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I do pay my own bills, worked since leaving school and own my own house + get good wages.
Doesnt change the fact the tories are destroying services and people in work are having to claim tax credits and visit food banks to make ends meet.
Thats not the society i want to live in.'"
Ill happily donate a rope, if you can tie a knot, or would you need somone else to so, leach on what you call soceiety, people like you disgust me, always want someone else to pay the way for them. Utter embarassment perceived society, if you were all culled we'd be much better off.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Ill happily donate a rope, if you can tie a knot, or would you need somone else to so, leach on what you call soceiety, people like you disgust me, always want someone else to pay the way for them. Utter embarassment perceived society, if you were all culled we'd be much better off.'"
How is calling for better wages for workers encouraging leeches?
Youre thick as pudding fella, happy to have politicians use your taxes to benefit their business interests and be thankful when they destroy your public services.
Servile thickos like yourself are the reason they get away with it
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Ill happily donate a rope, if you can tie a knot, or would you need somone else to so, leach on what you call soceiety, people like you disgust me, always want someone else to pay the way for them. Utter embarassment perceived society, if you were all culled we'd be much better off.'"
How come my post has been deleted but this tripe remains?
Anyhow - another looming crisis for the beleaguered Mrs May; whilst she's sneaking around shouting "STRONG AND STABLE!" to groups of handpicked Tory activists in empty factories, reports are emerging that she's under investigation by the Property and Ethics Group at the Cabinet Office, for a massive conflict of interest in relation to billions of profit made by her husband in Brexit related activities - all undeclared of course.
Labour have already gained 13% in the polls since the start of the campaign - if his has legs, it could see her off altogether.
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| Quote ="bren2k"How come my post has been deleted but this tripe remains?
Anyhow - another looming crisis for the beleaguered Mrs May; whilst she's sneaking around shouting "STRONG AND STABLE!" to groups of handpicked Tory activists in empty factories, reports are emerging that she's under investigation by the Property and Ethics Group at the Cabinet Office, for a massive conflict of interest in relation to billions of profit made by her husband in Brexit related activities - all undeclared of course.
Labour have already gained 13% in the polls since the start of the campaign - if his has legs, it could see her off altogether.'"
I admire your optimism.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I admire your optimism.'"
I do try.
Even in this weird and brainwashed political climate, where working class people are prepared to believe that the Tories will ever act in their interest, there has to be a limit to what people will put up with - surely?!
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| Quote ="bren2k"I do try.
Even in this weird and brainwashed political climate, where working class people are prepared to believe that the Tories will ever act in their interest, there has to be a limit to what people will put up with - surely?!'"
Just so, I literally look at what this govt has done and can't see why working class people would vote for it to continue. Those I've spoken to have their doubts about Corbyn, which is fair enough - but surely he's worth a shot considering May's record as both Home Sec and PM.
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| Our first pass the post voting system is not very fair. Certain parts of the country and various towns and cities, if you support one particular party you don't stand a chance.
If you look at the votes cast for the snp and the number of people they have in parliament. Things won't change as this system has been debated in the press and parliament countless times . Nobody seems to be keen to change things.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I admire your optimism.'"
It's unbelievable that she can get away with going to a "factory" in Leeds and surround herself, not with it's employees but, with Tory activists, all pretending to work there.
It's an absolute disgrace and should not be allowed.
It's one thing to hand pick "sympathetic" employees to ask questions but to use "rent an employee" is disgraceful and if we had any decent journalists or media that were not "on her side", she would be exposed as a fraud and a coward.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's unbelievable that she can get away with going to a "factory" in Leeds and surround herself, not with it's employees but, with Tory activists, all pretending to work there.
It's an absolute disgrace and should not be allowed.
It's one thing to hand pick "sympathetic" employees to ask questions but to use "rent an employee" is disgraceful and if we had any decent journalists or media that were not "on her side", she would be exposed as a fraud and a coward.'"
When Corbyn speaks to the CBI rather than the Teachers Union then I will agree with you - speaking to a audience hanging on your every word is easy as both Corbyn and May have shown. The fact you haven't said the same about Corbyn shows your myopia.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"When Corbyn speaks to the CBI rather than the Teachers Union then I will agree with you - speaking to a audience hanging on your every word is easy as both Corbyn and May have shown. The fact you haven't said the same about Corbyn shows your myopia.'"
He literally spoke to the FSB earlier in the month. May? Not so much.
[urlhttp://press.labour.org.uk/post/159447647419/jeremy-corbyns-speech-to-the-federation-of-small[/url
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"He literally spoke to the FSB earlier in the month. May? Not so much.
[urlhttp://press.labour.org.uk/post/159447647419/jeremy-corbyns-speech-to-the-federation-of-small[/url'"
May spoke in South Wales - when Corbyn speaks to an audience of serious right wingers come back - it won't happen and you know it. Both sides pick the audience Corbyn is no different to May.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"May spoke in South Wales - when Corbyn speaks to an audience of serious right wingers come back - it won't happen and you know it. Both sides pick the audience Corbyn is no different to May.'"
You are clearly one eyed if you believe that - Corbyn is out and about talking to plenty of people - admittedly not in Tory Heartlands - but thats not his priority, he's got enough on with the many marginals he's faced with.
May is travelling around renting halls to talk to the people she brought with her!
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