Because there are still fundamentalist radicals preaching/brainwashing hate to young and impressionable people. (in some and by no means all mosques). According to a muslim on the BBC this morning the muslim heirarchy are in denial and just want such actions brushed under the carpet.

Incidentally these are his words not mine, so if you have a question for him, go and ask him

So less that 1/10 of one percent in 1961. As I said Islam was not practised here historically to any great extent.

No but a Muslim spokesman on the BBC was saying these kids get indocrinated by some Muslim clerics, which was the point I made (as opposed to the one you would like to think I made).

That may be the most risible and pointless hypothesis of all time. Well done.

My guess is yes but with a little help from their friends (ie manipulative radical Muslims who used them and drugs).

Still not sure what point you're trying to make by repeating that.

The BBC have named one of the attackers and describe him as being from a devout Christian family but who converted to Islam during his time at college. The police are searching 2 addresses - one in Greenwich and another in Lincolnshire.

That 'some' Muslim clerics attempt to radicalise young men doesn't seem to be a particularly good reason to attack your nearest mosque. So your point was irrelevant. I'm sure 'some' Catholic preachers attempted to radicalise young men during the NI conflict.

I switched off when the bloke kept repeating the mantra about British foreign policy 'in the Muslim world'. Had he said that the terrorists had to take responsibility for themselves for their own radicalisation, acknowledging that all adult human beings had the ability to make choices (which they do), then I would have continued to listen. But I'm not interested in excuses for the kind of behaviour witnessed in London yesterday. If spokespeople on TV continue to blame the British government's foreign policy for Islamist terrorism then why are they surprised if Muslim clerics brush the same under the carpet (to use the TV spokesperson's own words).

So why do a number of Muslims think they have to attack Western countries?

Because Europe is a cancer, Islam is the answer.

Oh sorry. I get it. You've misunderstood what I've said and linked my comment to a beheading. There have been various attacks over the years, hasn't there minty. By the religious extremists you so despise.

Well the "little help from their friends" if there were any and who they were are the important questions.

If they acted alone I see little difference between this and the equally abhorrent killings of the two policewomen in Manchester.

That wasn't classed as terrorism and this should not be either whatever the perpetrators say was their motive. Classifying it as terrorism elevates (if that is the right word) the crime to a status it does not warrant.

Precisely. But this is the rubbish our national, taxpayer funded, broadcaster puts out as being balanced and reasonable and suckers that the person you answered buy it.

We should heed George Bush;'s words to the effect you are either for us or against us. We should do so by calling all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.

Perhaps we could introduce some sort of mandatory salute as well.

Well anyone who takes British Citizenship already has to do that. Are you suggesting that those born British should be required to do the same? When precisely?

Yes. Public ceremonies held weekly.

Perhaps they could be televised too

I think he just means the ones who are darker than 'warm beige' on the Dulux colour chart. What I'd like to know is, when those who refuse are 'asked to leave', where will they be sent?

"Hey, France, these people aren't British enough for us. You can have them."

They could all compete to see who is the most British, then the public could vote on who gets deported and to where.

"I see your cream tea in a thatched cottage and raise you a bout of fisticuffs in Newcastle town centre with a bloke who looked at your bird."

No. Should apply to all.

Please, please tell me you're being flippant and that this isn't a serious suggestion. With anyone else I'd assume it was a wind up, but you post so many staggeringly stupid things that I can't tell which are supposed to be serious and which aren't.

Can I just point out that this is not a terrorist attack.

At the least, it's a racial assault ( or would be if it was white on black), at worst, it's a religious attack/assault. The 2 beng questioned are religious fanatics. You find these bigots all over the world.

Rip to the soldier.

I don't want to do that.
I'm English, My parents are English, All 4 of my Grandparents are English and I don't want to go anywhere.
Problem?

At the risk of evoking Godwin but WTF?

Why should I, a born and bred citizen of the UK declare allegiance to something I may not agree with?