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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"But the MAJORITY voted leave, MP's are in no place, lawfully, to defy democracy.'"
Except they are - and they are aided and abetted by the fact that 'Leave' was in no way clearly defined. As I said weeks ago, it would be perfectly legitimate to engineer the softest of soft departures, then go back to their Leave voting constituents and say "see - I done a Brexit" - and no one could legitimately complain; and I suspect that the PM would have done exactly that, had she not decided to keep her party together over the national interest.
It's far too simplistic to rail against the whole political class - many of whom are, I'm sure, doing their best to minimise the damage caused by a few of their colleagues; mostly tax-dodging millionaires like, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
Don't despair - Mr Speaker will save us all, then go into hiding to avoid the Daily Mail incited lynch mob.
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| Shall we play a game of guess the newspaper this morning from the headlines:
1. Berc-oh.
2. The Brexit destroyer.
3. Smirk that says — Brexit be damned.
4. Women forced to sell sex in benefits crisis. (at least they deviated from brexit)
5. May’s Brexit hits block as Bercow rules out third vote on same deal.
6. Brexplosion.
7. Time to go, dozens of MPs tell May.
8. 400-year-old rule blocks Brexit vote 3.
9. “A major constitutional crisis.”
10. Brexit chaos as speaker stops May in her tracks.
11. Bercow’s hammer blow for May’s Brexit deal.
12. B*ll*cks to Bercow.
13. Bercow is sabotaging Brexit deal, says No. 10.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"8. 400-year-old rule blocks Brexit vote 3.'"
I like this one - I'm on trial for murder next week, which I believe has been prohibited by law for quite some time too - maybe I can argue that it should no longer be valid?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I like this one - I'm on trial for murder next week, which I believe has been prohibited by law for quite some time too - maybe I can argue that it should no longer be valid?'"
Ah. John Bercow. The man who broke Parliamentary convention in January when allowing a vote in favour of the Remain agenda, and who said he was 'going against precedent...precedent should sometimes be ignored, since otherwise manifestly nothing would ever change.'
Then digs up 400 year old precedent to support his agenda. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Cronus"Ah. John Bercow. The man who broke Parliamentary convention in January when allowing a vote in favour of the Remain agenda, and who said he was 'going against precedent...precedent should sometimes be ignored, since otherwise manifestly nothing would ever change.'
Then digs up 400 year old precedent to support his agenda.
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Which is irrelevant in this instance. May has put the same deal forward twice now and it’s been voted down. If May can put the same deal forward 3 times for a vote to try and get a different result why can’t the public be asked their opinion for a second time?
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| Quote ="Him"Which is irrelevant in this instance. May has put the same deal forward twice now and it’s been voted down. If May can put the same deal forward 3 times for a vote to try and get a different result why can’t the public be asked their opinion for a second time?'"
Why can't were have a general election every 2 years, why can't the SDP have another referendum because they lost the last one.
What would be interesting to find out is how he Became aware of this ancient rule. in using the same rule has he over ruled it by allowing her to bring it back a second time.
I do agree by the way, she can't keep bringing back the same proposal time and time again.
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| Quote ="POSTL"WWhat would be interesting to find out is how he Became aware of this ancient rule. in using the same rule has he over ruled it by allowing her to bring it back a second time.'"
The former Attorney General, The chief legal advisor to this Government, also said Bercow was spot on applying the ruling.
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| Quote ="tigertot"The former Attorney General, The chief legal advisor to this Government, also said Bercow was spot on applying the ruling.'"
I don't remember saying he wasn't.
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| Quote ="tigertot"The former Attorney General, The chief legal advisor to this Government, also said Bercow was spot on applying the ruling.'"
Ah I assume you were referring and answering my comment re allowing her to bring it back a second time was setting some sort of president. Apologies, thank you.
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| Quote ="tigertot"The former Attorney General, The chief legal advisor to this Government, also said Bercow was spot on applying the ruling.'"
there is a clue there, "former" who has an axe to grind. Just close Parliamemt down, they don't deliver the will of the people.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"there is a clue there, "former" who has an axe to grind. '"
So the QC & former Attorney general is lying?
Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Just close Parliamemt down, they don't deliver the will of right wing nutjobs.'"
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| Quote ="tigertot"So the QC & former Attorney general is lying?
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I am sure he has a personal agenda, a bit like yourself.
We are leaving the EU, I didn't vote for it, but I respect democracy. You might want to try it.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"I am sure he has a personal agenda, a bit like yourself.
We are leaving the EU, I didn't vote for it, but I respect democracy. You might want to try it.'"
What respect have you shown Jeremy Corbyn, the democratically elected leader of the Labour party, the biggest political party in Eurpoe, by membership, so I am led to believe?
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| Quote ="tigertot"What respect have you shown Jeremy Corbyn, the democratically elected leader of the Labour party, the biggest political party in Eurpoe, by membership, so I am led to believe?'"
None at all, because he is a moron. That is why he will never be in power.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"I respect democracy.'"
No you don't - you respect your own viewpoint and those who share it - and everyone else gets contempt and cheap insults; the very opposite of democracy.
With regard to Dominic Grieve - he's been nothing but an honest actor throughout this whole thing; he's had a principled position, has expressed it with clarity and respect for others, and is hugely intelligent and across his brief - it's hard to imagine for a second that he'd lie about this, and he's significantly better placed to take a view about John Bercow's actions than most.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"I am sure he has a personal agenda, a bit like yourself.
We are leaving the EU, I didn't vote for it, but I respect democracy. You might want to try it.'"
If you didn't vote for Brexit, as you may have mentioned once or twice, how come you come across like a Brextremist?
Your vilification of Corbyn continues unbounded, yet just remember who call the referendum & who has the majority in the H.o.C.
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| Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser, historty states such. Anyone who votes for him is a traitor. That is my view, and I stand by it.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"None at all, because he is a moron. That is why he will never be in power.'"
If Theresa May can become PM there's hope for anyone, even sub-morons.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser, historty states such. Anyone who votes for him is a traitor. That is my view, and I stand by it.'"
Define a terrorist.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Define a terrorist.'"
Why, can't you Google the word?
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Why, can't you Google the word?'"
Because you used the word. But I don't think you are articulate enough to understand it.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Because you used the word. But I don't think you are articulate enough to understand it.'"
And your opinion concerns me, because?
Old people are best left waiting for their mext set of medication, keep believing in Corbyn.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"
Old people are best left waiting for their [size=150mext[/size set of medication, keep believing in Corbyn.'"
Look up irony in the dictionary at the same time. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="tigertot"Look up irony in the dictionary at the same time.
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Oh wow, a miss type, and tigeridiot picks it up.
I hope you joy the seaside once the weather improves, maybe we can knit you a blanket.
RLFans, killed by Sanatogen and Werthers Original.
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| Quote ="tigertot"If Theresa May can become PM there's hope for anyone, even sub-morons.'"
But not Corbyn ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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