One only had a couple of hundred too as I recall, yet you still attached equal importance.

What really matters of course is the context of the poll, a poll of audience members at this weeks Tory party conference would have resulted in a predicted 650 seat majority at the next election whereas a poll of six month old turkey chicks this week would have been unanimously in favour of abandoning christmas this year.

Any poll is irrelevant when it is biased in its selection and choice of question regardless of the size of its poll, the readers personal opinion has nothing to do with such careless polling.

I think Ajw71 would like unskewedpolls.com/ When Romney was doing badly, the far right decided to create their own alternate reality where he was, in fact, miles ahead. All you needed to do was change (sorry "deskew"icon_wink.gif a few characteristics of the opinion polls and suddenly everything was going to be alright. "Deskewing" I guess has the effect of tweaking the samples so that the poll population was corrected to be more Republican (and therefore white, southern, male and elderly) than those biased liberal pollsters were projecting. Suddenly, they were able to comfort themselves that everything was going to be alright.

I think Ajw71 would like unskewedpolls.com/ When Romney was doing badly, the far right decided to create their own alternate reality where he was, in fact, miles ahead. All you needed to do was change (sorry "deskew"icon_wink.gif a few characteristics of the opinion polls and suddenly everything was going to be alright. "Deskewing" I guess has the effect of tweaking the samples so that the poll population was corrected to be more Republican (and therefore white, southern, male and elderly) than those biased liberal pollsters were projecting. Suddenly, they were able to comfort themselves that everything was going to be alright.

Quote ="MjM"I think Ajw71 would like unskewedpolls.com/ When Romney was doing badly, the far right decided to create their own alternate reality where he was, in fact, miles ahead. All you needed to do was change (sorry "deskew"icon_wink.gif a few characteristics of the opinion polls and suddenly everything was going to be alright. "Deskewing" I guess has the effect of tweaking the samples so that the poll population was corrected to be more Republican (and therefore white, southern, male and elderly) than those biased liberal pollsters were projecting. Suddenly, they were able to comfort themselves that everything was going to be alright.'" No you just don't get it. It's a poll. Therefore it is incontrovertible evidence of anything you want to argue regardless of the question asked, the number of respondents, the demographics of the respondents or the weighting involved.

Quote ="MjM"I think Ajw71 would like unskewedpolls.com/ When Romney was doing badly, the far right decided to create their own alternate reality where he was, in fact, miles ahead. All you needed to do was change (sorry "deskew"icon_wink.gif a few characteristics of the opinion polls and suddenly everything was going to be alright. "Deskewing" I guess has the effect of tweaking the samples so that the poll population was corrected to be more Republican (and therefore white, southern, male and elderly) than those biased liberal pollsters were projecting. Suddenly, they were able to comfort themselves that everything was going to be alright.'" No you just don't get it. It's a poll. Therefore it is incontrovertible evidence of anything you want to argue regardless of the question asked, the number of respondents, the demographics of the respondents or the weighting involved.

Not but you laughed when I stated thousands, impyling that I had made it up. I had not and you were wrong.

So he's not doing badly anymore. Glad we agree.

I stated he was ahead in some polls last night - this was factually correct.

I'm sorry if these particular polls you don't agree with but others are entiled to an opinion as well y'know. Contrary to popular belief it's not just the likes of [iHim's[/i opinion that matters.

It's been explained to you several times by more than one poster, you are not that bloody thick.

Things have picked up, no doubt - would have been hard not for them to given how badly it had been going. Let's see if the VP debate has much impact. Biden put in a strong performance but it's hard to read what the take-aways from that will be.

As a general point, however, selectively choosing polls which support your opinion when the consensus of similar polls do not or are inconclusive is either self-delusion or wilful deception.

If any poster's opinion is bat crazy then that poster should not be surprised to find the opinion coming under some scrutiny.

I laugh at you constantly, it doesn't imply that you are lying, just that I find you funny.

Where has anyone done this? I said 'some' polls have Romney in the lead. The very nature of the word 'some' indicates that some also do not have him in the lead. I didn't go into any further detail.




Right....which 'bat' (absoloutely despise that word) opinions are these?

Whilst watching the debate between Biden and Ryan I thought that I had seen Ryan before as a character on the Muppet Show.

Seconds out, round 2 tonight.

The prez looks like he's gonna have to get his combinations going tonight after being on the ropes in round 1.

Hope he was doing the 'rope-a-dope' first time round and that he's gonna be throwing a bit more leather this evening.

For those who didn't watch, Romney, having alienated 47% of the US population dismissed as feckless, has now alienated the female population whose existence as fully functional humans he only discovered once he became governor and has since gathered binders full of those who, apparently, are believed to possibly be capable of something more than making dinner



Did I miss anything out?

That "binders full of women" thing was hilarious. And a typical take-away moment from a debate - we know what he meant but in saying it in quite the way he did it appeared to reveal something about Romney.

It also though shows that debates are a fundamentally flawed way of making your decisions on such things. Is the best way to determine who is Commander in Chief seeing who can avoid making a minor, off the cuff speaking error, who can remember to sit there with a pleasant neutral look on their face rather than down at their notes whilst the other person speaks, who doesn't check his watch to see how much of his alloted time he has left?

Search YouTube for "stewart v o'reilly rumble 2012" They do this waaaay better than any real politician could dream of doing, take a trip to BS Mountain

I'm not sure the 'cheating' Chinese American vote will be swinging to G'vnor Romney.

That was funny. It was like a school kid who's just lost the football game at break. Oh no! Those nasty Chinese are cheating! By doing almost exactly the same things the US were when it was trying to industrialise itself.

I like his fellow Republican, Rick Perry's description of Romneys political ideology, 'vulture capitalism'.

If I were Romney, I might never dare order a Chinese takeaway again for fear of what additional ingredients it may contain

I don't think Romney's ever ordered a Chinese takeaway in his life. He wouldn't mix with part of the 47%.

Some fairly intimate snaps of the present incumbent.

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Jay-z is my celeb President.

Mine is Bruce Springsteen

I got Matt Damon.

Cindy Crawford

Gwyneth Paltrow